From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: What's up with the semi-permanent vc breakage? Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:51:52 +0200 Message-ID: <85mymitefb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211478886 8587 80.91.229.12 (22 May 2008 17:54:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:54:46 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 22 19:55:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JzEyz-0006Ba-Ci for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:53:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52318 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JzEyE-0003Fh-Th for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:52:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JzExO-0002qR-W4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JzExK-0002oa-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:52:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37522 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JzExK-0002oX-9r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:51:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.52]:43619) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JzExK-0003lg-74 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:51:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.17]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E664C6B4 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:51:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.57]) by mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37562DAAD0 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:51:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-000-184.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.0.184]) by mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5252BBC0B for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:51:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 629241C46131; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:51:53 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/7214/Thu May 22 14:44:15 2008 on mail-in-17.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97536 Archived-At: Hi, usually the state in the trunk is supposed to be code that more or less works. With VC, this has not been true for at least several weeks: there are problems with some "menu-filter" thing bombing out (at least when debug-on-error is set) for operations as simple as C-v c =, and now an uninitialized variable vc-client-mode (presumably from vc-dispatcher.el) breaks operations when debug-on-error is set. It is not really a solution for me to switch off debug-on-error permanently (since that makes it, say, impossible to debug errors), and it is not clear to me why unsetting it stops vc errors from occuring. I remember some messages about expecting rough times ahead, and also reports about this problem. But there has been quiescence lately with regard to mails on the list or checkins in the code. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum