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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: offby1@blarg.net, lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [mange@freemail.hu: grep-tree doesn't shell-quote-argument]
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:09:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85lku1hfud.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m34q0paftx.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:51:38 +0200")

storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:

> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> So what you suggest is that the current grep-tree should replace
>>> grep-find/find-grep as the default interface, and the current
>>> grep-find functionality should be selected if a prefix arg is
>>> specified.
>>
>> This is somewhat radical and might surprise people.  
>
> True, but that's how things evolve :-)

Sure, but we generally need two things for evolution:

a) a recipe to put into NEWS and antinews how to get back the old
behavior (there are always people shouting for that on any change).

b) sort of a migration path so that those people can actually be made
to swallow the new way piece by piece.

> I imagine to implement it with grep-find being just a front-end to
> two other commands grep-find-command and grep-find-template
> (corresponding to the old grep-find and grep-tree).  So an easy way
> for a user to get the desired behaviour would be to defalias
> grep-find to either of these if the default doesn't suit him.

Customize by alias?  Not really the most desirable thing in my book.

>> How about making a configurable "grep-find-prompt" option that ...
>> ... And use C-u M-x grep-find RET for being
>> able to post-edit the command, and maybe C-u C-u M-x grep-find RET for
>> getting the inverse than the default behavior.
>
> So we merge two commands into one (because people cannot remember
> which is which), and then we add a new cryptic customize option to
> configure what it should do by default, and a couple of prefix args to
> tweak things even further.

You make it sound like it would be a bad idea...

Drop the "couple": just let grep-find prompt for everything when given
a prefix argument.  But I think a customization option for the
default, namely whether to prompt for parts or the command, would be
more reasonable than an _alias_ for selecting the default behavior.

We don't usually customize by alias.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-19 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-18 12:57 [mange@freemail.hu: grep-tree doesn't shell-quote-argument] Richard Stallman
2006-04-18 14:02 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-18 14:44   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-18 15:11     ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-04-18 15:18       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-04-19  8:59         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19  9:15           ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-19  9:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-19 11:41             ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 12:23               ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 12:51                 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 13:09                   ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-04-19 21:13                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-19 13:14                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-19 13:28                   ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 13:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-19 14:09                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 14:58                         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 15:10                           ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 16:59                           ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-04-19 17:08                             ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 14:52                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 15:03                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 18:10                   ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-19 18:15                     ` Drew Adams
2006-04-19 18:23                     ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 18:34                       ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-19 21:13                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-19 12:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-18 15:27     ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-19  4:17     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-19  8:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-19 21:12         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-20  9:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-21  8:27           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-21 14:47             ` Magnus Henoch
2006-04-21 17:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-21 20:04                 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-21 20:40                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-21 21:35                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-22 12:03             ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-22 12:41               ` David Kastrup
2006-04-23 16:06                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-23 16:19                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-22 23:02               ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-23 21:58                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-23 22:06                   ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 11:51                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 12:04                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-25 16:46                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 12:10                       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-24 22:46                         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-25 16:47                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 11:05                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-24 11:11                     ` Miles Bader
2006-04-24 11:24                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 11:31                         ` Miles Bader
2006-04-24 11:43                           ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 11:52                             ` Miles Bader
2006-04-24 17:52                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 18:16                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 20:38                         ` Chong Yidong
2006-04-25 16:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-26  8:27                           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-27  4:36                             ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-25  9:06                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-29  3:50                     ` Richard Stallman

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