From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: makeinfo 4.7 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:33:57 +0200 Message-ID: <85lkp5kdcq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <200608261711.k7QHBUS15318@f7.net> <85lkpaywjk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85irkd3j86.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87y7t5x4ur.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156980898 11437 80.91.229.2 (30 Aug 2006 23:34:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 31 01:34:55 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIZa3-0007E2-6V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:34:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIZa2-0000Vy-Mn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:34:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GIZZq-0000Vj-0Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:34:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GIZZp-0000VX-E9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:34:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIZZp-0000VU-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:34:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GIZjK-0006Q4-6w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:44:22 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GIZZn-00074T-RJ; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:34:32 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 72E581C4D3A4; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:33:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <87y7t5x4ur.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:59:08 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59137 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >>> Just like we prefer that users upgrade to the latest version of emacs >>> (to avoid spending time on bug reports for older versions), I'm sure >>> the maintainers of makeinfo also prefer people to use the latest >>> version. >>> >>> So why should emacs (of all projects) not use an up-to-date version of >>> makeinfo? I don't see the problem at all. > > Just today these new Texinfo directives caused trouble for me. I > successfully compiled CVS Emacs on quite an old GNU/Linux server > (Red Hat 9.0). Why would you not upgrade the server? It has reached end of service long ago. There are not even security updates anymore. At the current point of time, I get password crack attacks via ssh about twice a week on my dialup account (so randomly assigned IP numbers), usually several hundred login attempts about a second apart. One of the infected machines was on a university network, and the system administrators there were kind enough to tell me what computer it was. It was an embedded system running an old version of RedHat. I really don't think that we should go out of our depth to support installations like that. > Due to these errors I was unable to consult the Info documentation > from the rest of Info files that should be created after the > compilation that was interrupted by makeinfo errors. And I had no > time/need to update Texinfo on this server. You had the time to check out, configure and install Emacs from CVS, but did not have the time to run yum update texinfo (or fetch and install a suitable RPM from one of many repositories). Unhn. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum