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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: --with-gtk as default?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:07:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85lkijgsp9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17892.41562.272591.53294@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Wed\, 28 Feb 2007 10\:27\:54 +1300")

Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz> writes:

>  > >> Given that GNOME is considered part of the GNU project, should not be
>  > >> --with-gtk be the default for compiling Emacs rather than Athena
>  > >> widgets, at least where GTK+ is available?
>  > >
>  > > I don't have an opinion about this, but if we eventually do make this
>  > > the default, please exclude Cygwin from the platforms that build with
>  > > GTK+ by default, because as Jan discovered, the Cygwin build is
>  > > currently incompatible with GTK+.
>  > 
>  > Cygwin is basically an X11 build?
>
> I guess the various distributions will build Emacs with GTK, anyway.
> The advantage of Athena widgets may be that they build everywhere
> and, for that reason alone, I think it is the best choice for the
> default.

Why?  If X11 is not available, we fall back to without-X.  Would you
claim that without-X is for that reason the best choice for the
default?  Because it builds on more platforms?

I'd say that trying for GTK+ as default and Xaw as fallback is
perfectly reasonable for an X11 build.  Nowadays Xaw widgets are not
even as likely to be available as developer libraries as GTK+ is.

What builds everywhere for X11 is actually the "native" Lucid widget
version, not Xaw.  And yet Xaw is the default, _when_ available.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-27 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-27 19:43 --with-gtk as default? David Kastrup
2007-02-27 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27 21:20   ` David Kastrup
2007-02-27 21:27     ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-27 22:07       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-02-27 22:27         ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-27 22:30           ` David Kastrup
2007-02-27 22:13       ` David Kastrup
2007-02-27 22:21         ` David Kastrup
2007-02-28  4:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-28  6:29       ` David Kastrup
2007-02-28  7:32         ` Jan Djärv
2007-02-28 20:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-28 22:15             ` Jason Rumney
2007-03-01  4:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-01  7:22               ` Jan Djärv
2007-03-01  8:44                 ` Jason Rumney
2007-03-02  3:27                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-02  7:40                     ` Kevin Rodgers
2007-03-02  9:15                     ` Jason Rumney
2007-03-02 13:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-02 23:47                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-02 23:46                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-03  1:43                         ` Jason Rumney
2007-03-04  2:00                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-02 13:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-28 20:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-28  7:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-28  7:57   ` David Kastrup
2007-02-28  8:22     ` Jan Djärv
2007-02-28  8:44       ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-28  8:48         ` David Kastrup
2007-02-28 11:23         ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-28 11:40           ` David Kastrup
2007-02-28 12:18             ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-28 12:28               ` David Kastrup
2007-02-28 13:00                 ` Romain Francoise
2007-03-01 10:06                   ` Nick Roberts
2007-03-01 11:45                     ` Christian Faulhammer
2007-02-28 13:02                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-02-28 13:14                   ` David Kastrup
2007-02-28 13:18                     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-02-28 13:25                       ` David Kastrup
2007-02-28 16:05             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-28 20:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-01  9:07               ` David Kastrup
2007-03-01  1:09       ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-01  9:08         ` David Kastrup
2007-03-02  9:22       ` David Kastrup
2007-03-02  9:35         ` Jason Rumney
2007-03-02  9:45           ` David Kastrup
2007-03-02 10:57         ` Jan Djärv
2007-02-28 17:31     ` Ralf Angeli

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