From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:40:32 +0100 Message-ID: <85lk73i0u7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <20071230122217.3CA84830B9A@snark.thyrsus.com> <20071231130712.GB8641@thyrsus.com> <87y7b96az8.fsf@member.fsf.org> <87fxxfnrhi.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85abnkodlu.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85k5mnjjyn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199623218 2022 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2008 12:40:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: bob@rattlesnake.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 06 13:40:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBUnt-0006EU-Cy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:40:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBUnV-0001hA-NI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:40:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBUnP-0001fo-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:40:07 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBUnN-0001d8-7j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:40:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBUnN-0001d3-4i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:40:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-17.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.57]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBUnN-0007CW-3C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:40:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.14]) by mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5032BBA08; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:39:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.50]) by mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152B31147B5; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:39:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-036-135.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.36.135]) by mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C570C2AD563; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:39:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 8E5F91CCF7AE; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:40:32 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Robert J. Chassell's message of "Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:05:08 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/5385/Sun Jan 6 02:13:06 2008 on mail-in-10.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86323 Archived-At: "Robert J. Chassell" writes: > Unless your "own data" _is_ the published repository. > > But in Emacs development, it is not. Emacs is not maintained with git (well, git being decentral, everybody is free to work with it regardless). > No one is defending CVS; but several want to understand how to be the > equivalent of what they are already, a 16th century merchant, rather > than a 12th century merchant. That is what this whole `commit', > `push' discussion is about. > > Since some developers have work and sleep patterns that are 12 hours > different from yours, and they do not want you to change to confirm to > them, they do not want anything that is immediate. > > And some are not connected and some do not want interruptions. > > IRC is big fear, since it means that some people will not develop and > there are few as it is. > > That means email makes sense. Well, your above Email doesn't. CVS does not work by Email, git does not work by IRC, and neither are in any manner even remotely related with medieval merchants. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum