From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:53:18 +0200 Message-ID: <85lk02ak6p.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <487A783B.7060603@gmail.com> <20080713232635.GD1076@muc.de> <85od51id2t.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20080714204242.GH6711@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20080714223059.GG3445@muc.de> <8763r858dx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <85ej5vbpzm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87od4zdnot.fsf@photon.caeruleus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216158824 11004 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2008 21:53:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ralf Angeli Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 15 23:54:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KIsTb-0004Eu-T7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:54:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46914 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIsSj-0003pr-8P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:53:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIsSa-0003of-V5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:53:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIsSZ-0003o8-C0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:53:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58140 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIsSZ-0003o2-8K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.52]:51758) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KIsSZ-0003jb-3A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.13]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C514B4C2C8; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:53:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-02.arcor-online.net (mail-in-02.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.42]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AF12BF80E; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:53:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-056-064.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.56.64]) by mail-in-02.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED9D27EC4; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:53:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 662F71C4D4A0; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:53:19 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87od4zdnot.fsf@photon.caeruleus.net> (Ralf Angeli's message of "Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:09:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/7719/Tue Jul 15 19:23:47 2008 on mail-in-02.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100753 Archived-At: Ralf Angeli writes: > * David Kastrup (2008-07-15) writes: > >> And so on. Really, the Debian policy is not broken. It is just that >> no-one, including Emacs and XEmacs itself, does not really appreciate >> it. > > I'm assuming this is the dreaded Bavarian double negation. Guilty, your honor. However, let's not call it Bavarian. It is pretty much an element of any dialect. How about the Yiddish negative? "Keyn mensh, un keyn Emacs un XEmacs nisht, ton keyn froydnshprung nisht." Something like that. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum