From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:52:03 +0200 Message-ID: <85k5qittws.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <85abrn9ini.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d4wh3kf9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wcw1qht.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <871wctziwv.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> <87lkb1z0vg.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> <858x71w5f5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4zvea54019.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87myvgrivy.fsf@jurta.org> <86r6ksxz9n.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87hclmlq2x.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190487164 26442 80.91.229.12 (22 Sep 2007 18:52:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 22 20:52:38 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZA5k-0003J1-2k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:52:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZA5h-0006ek-Jm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:52:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZA5e-0006eW-J5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:52:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZA5e-0006eK-4s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:52:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZA5d-0006eH-VS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:52:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.47]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZA5Z-00042X-Jn; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:52:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.13]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C1A24B76D; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:52:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.41]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CDD13F70C; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:52:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-012-197.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.12.197]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E5F13F62; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:52:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 3B7131C22919; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:52:03 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat\, 22 Sep 2007 20\:40\:02 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4359/Sat Sep 22 17:57:21 2007 on mail-in-01.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79519 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Juri Linkov >> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:11:59 +0300 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> > I have not checked the latest version but I agree that any "Dismiss in >> > future" should only affect the splash screen when file names are given >> > on the command line. >> > >> > I agree. And the "don't show this in the future" should only be >> > shown when there are file name args. >> > >> > Would someone please implement that? >> >> Done. > > What about the demonstration of concept in the patch below? I think > popping the splash screen in a separate frame is superior to dividing > the initial frame, and doing so makes all kinds of complications with > "concise" splash screen and whether splash should be in upper or lower > window, a non-issue. IIRC, Richard agreed to the idea of a separate > frame. Two frames always imply a fight: the window manager will try to find places for them and decide on how to focus them. Getting a separate window tamed is the matter of C-x 0 or C-x 1. In contrast, C-x 5 0 or C-x 5 1 will leave one with a window configuration that might be worse than if just one frame would have been placed. With my personal geometry settings, not more than one Emacs frame per workspace is really usable. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum