From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:58:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85is2q5iwl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01c53cda$Blat.v2.4$4eb132e0@zahav.net.il> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:00:14 +0300")
"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
>> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:32:19 +0300
>>
>> I was mislead by the "Emacs Tutorial (choose language)..." menu item.
>> I thought that "Emacs Tutorial" always selects the English tutorial while
>> "Emacs Tutorial (choose language)..." selects a tutorial in any language.
>>
>> The fact that English menu item "Emacs Tutorial" can select a non-English
>> tutorial is misleading too. Ideally the menu item "Emacs Tutorial"
>> should be translated into the same language whose tutorial it selects.
>> This requires support for multi-language menus.
>
> Until multi-language menus are supported, perhaps we should change the
> menu item to say
>
> Emacs Tutorial (in YOUR-LANGUAGE)
>
> where YOUR-LANGUAGE stands for the language name. This should be done
> only for those languages that indeed have a translated tutorial. The
> tooltip should also hint about that.
I think we should do that only for those languages that can't be shown
in the menu. Since this depends on a complex interaction of platform,
fonts and locales, I think the programmer wanting to put something
into a menu can't be reasonably expected to make a guess.
So I think that we should add something like
(defun menu-string-supported-p STRING &optional DISPLAY)
that will tell a programmer whether a given platform is supposed to
be able to display a given string.
It is really something that Emacs needs to tell the programmer.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-13 23:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-03 10:31 Possible change to startup.el Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-04-07 6:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-04-08 3:22 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-08 6:31 ` Marcelo Toledo
2005-04-08 7:27 ` Kenichi Handa
2005-04-08 18:32 ` Juri Linkov
2005-04-08 18:43 ` Marcelo Toledo
2005-04-10 1:54 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-08 10:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-08 18:32 ` Juri Linkov
2005-04-09 8:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-13 23:58 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-04-14 4:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-14 9:46 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-15 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-14 19:03 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-14 23:40 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-17 1:49 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-17 9:31 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-17 19:20 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-17 19:51 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-10 1:54 ` Richard Stallman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-31 12:01 Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-31 12:59 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-31 13:43 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-31 22:19 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-04-01 4:10 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-01 4:03 ` Juri Linkov
2005-04-03 5:20 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-31 11:37 Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-31 12:05 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-31 13:32 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-31 14:29 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-31 16:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-31 22:23 ` Miles Bader
2005-04-01 4:10 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-30 22:47 Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-30 23:38 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-01 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-31 1:40 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-31 1:02 ` Marcelo Toledo
2005-03-31 3:20 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-31 2:21 ` Marcelo Toledo
2005-03-31 6:59 ` Juri Linkov
2005-04-01 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-25 18:07 Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-27 3:52 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-27 23:15 ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-28 22:53 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-29 20:19 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-30 4:08 ` Marcelo Toledo
2005-03-30 9:42 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-24 10:49 Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-24 19:05 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-25 6:43 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-21 18:44 David Kastrup
2005-03-21 20:50 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-21 21:10 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-21 21:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-21 22:14 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-22 0:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-22 1:38 ` David Hansen
2005-03-23 18:25 ` James Cloos
2005-03-27 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-22 4:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-22 6:24 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-22 8:15 ` Kenichi Handa
2005-03-22 8:27 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-22 10:40 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-22 12:44 ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-22 20:31 ` Werner LEMBERG
2005-03-22 11:23 ` Kenichi Handa
2005-03-22 12:33 ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-22 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-22 10:18 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-22 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-22 22:24 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-22 20:44 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-22 22:32 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-23 6:21 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-23 13:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-23 18:01 ` Werner LEMBERG
2005-03-25 12:51 ` Kenichi Handa
2005-03-23 20:25 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-22 13:57 ` Richard Stallman
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