From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: makeinfo 4.7 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:30:01 +0200 Message-ID: <85irkd3j86.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <200608261711.k7QHBUS15318@f7.net> <85lkpaywjk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156717851 8016 80.91.229.2 (27 Aug 2006 22:30:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: karl@freefriends.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 28 00:30:45 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHT9J-0002NY-W2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:30:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHT9J-0006WX-E7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:30:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHT94-0006Rw-7s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:30:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHT93-0006Qb-KJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:30:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHT93-0006QI-Dg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:30:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GHTHs-0006uQ-7r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:39:28 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GHT92-0000b1-M3; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:30:20 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id C5DA51C4D3A4; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:30:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:27:31 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58961 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk, karl@freefriends.org >> From: David Kastrup >> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:26:39 +0200 >> >> > For only 3 directives that are very easy to change back to >> > back-compatible ones, I think such a requirement would be >> > annoyingly unjustified. >> >> Who would be annoyed by it? > > People who don't have Texinfo 4.7 or later installed. _And_ need to run makeinfo in the first place. >> IIRC, the distribution tarballs come with premade info files, >> anyway. > > I thought the GNU project was about being able to modify the manual, > not only use whatever is shipped with the tarballs. If you are modifying the manual, you can be expected to be using development tools that are not from the stone age. That is nothing an inexperienced user would do. > On top of that, a large number of users who aren't developers are > using the CVS code, where you must have Texinfo to produce the > manual. Again, this is nothing an inexperienced user would do. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum