From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:19:28 +0200 Message-ID: <85ir6jm71b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87sl5n75kf.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189465315 31312 80.91.229.12 (10 Sep 2007 23:01:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , Sascha Wilde , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 11 09:01:41 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IUyMy-0002E5-JA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:33:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUqsb-00075c-UE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:33:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUqsW-000725-Vo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:33:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUqsW-00071S-Dn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:33:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUqsW-00071P-8w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:33:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.46]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUqsV-0004rM-Ul for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:33:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.20]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0673631F2F9; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:33:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (mail-in-11.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.51]) by mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E750021300A; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:33:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-003-035.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.3.35]) by mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD48413F62; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:33:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id C13CE1CAD717; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:19:28 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun\, 09 Sep 2007 22\:33\:53 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4232/Mon Sep 10 20:18:12 2007 on mail-in-11.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78516 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> If we all convince Richard that displaying the startup screen >> instead of a file is a bad thing, any changes won't be necessary. > > Richard has made up his mind, I doubt there exist a way to change > his opinion on that. So since the startup screen will be displayed, > the only way out of this is to display both the startup buffer and > the file buffer. But Richard did not demand that we create a splash screen that does not even go away when you press a key or other event even when started with a file name, did he? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum