From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:21:19 +0100 Message-ID: <85ir1eucyo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <20071230122217.3CA84830B9A@snark.thyrsus.com> <4pd9g15e.fsf@blue.sea.net> <87r6g7z3m2.fsf@everybody.org> <87odbbngr8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080125231308.57E9A30303@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE> <873aslsck9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85bq77yxpf.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <18332.58450.182059.702244@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201472532 16844 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2008 22:22:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org, Miles Bader To: Nick Roberts Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 27 23:22:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JJFtV-0000O1-Uh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:22:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJFt5-0002kQ-39 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:22:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJFt0-0002ir-Ud for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:21:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJFsz-0002hZ-JE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:21:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJFsz-0002hW-D5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:21:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.46]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJFso-00026J-MG; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:21:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.21]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6F331E88C; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:21:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-16.arcor-online.net (mail-in-16.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.56]) by mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487B728EDD7; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:21:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-096-025.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.96.25]) by mail-in-16.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11117236E4B; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:21:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 2197F1C29911; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:21:19 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <18332.58450.182059.702244@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:06:42 +1300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5574/Sun Jan 27 11:03:42 2008 on mail-in-16.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87664 Archived-At: Nick Roberts writes: > > > Being part of the GNU Project is not an arbitrary label. > > > > It is not a label given for technical excellence. And as far as I am > > able to see, the promotion to "GNU software" is not the result of a > > competition for that title, but is granted when certain criteria are met > > and an application is made. > > I have presumed that it requires assigning all copyright to the FSF > which means that projects which have no record of authorship cannot > become GNU projects. Emacs does not have all copyright assigned to the FSF (for example, the MULE subsystem is copyrighted by the Japanese Government or something like that). So the assignment in toto is not an absolutely rigid and exceptionless rule. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum