From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs & MAXPATHLEN Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 08:30:05 +0200 Message-ID: <85hde6rz82.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87fytzj6a7.fsf@gmail.com> <87pst2h35e.fsf@gmail.com> <87r7dhxenv.fsf@gmail.com> <1122724400.456845.1155.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> <8564upv8k1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85hde7t8n2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1123138684 13294 80.91.229.2 (4 Aug 2005 06:58:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 06:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@suse.de, eliz@gnu.org, gscrivano@gmail.com, ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 08:58:01 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0Zfz-0004fc-QM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 08:58:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0Zfp-0005HU-3R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:57:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E0ZeX-0005Er-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:56:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E0ZeU-0005Cl-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:56:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0ZeU-0005CV-Fi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:56:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E0ZSv-0007sD-IB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:44:29 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E0ZES-0003ty-1l; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:29:33 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 3828C1D46074; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:30:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:11:35 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:41481 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:41481 "Richard M. Stallman" writes: > Well, it _is_ the "system" in "system call": a "system call" clearly > passes control to Linux. > > Actually it calls libc, and then libc invokes the kernel. Uh no. That is the system call _wrapper_ of the library. The system call itself is a trap or software interrupt. Take a look at a dictionary: > > It isn't GNU/Linux, but like GNU/Linux, it includes > > Linux along with many other programs. > > Linux is not really a program in the usual sense. > > It is a program, in the usual sense of the word. > You must have some unusual sense of the word in mind. Looks more like a collection of services to me, somewhat like a library. A kernel that runs below a microkernel might be considered to act partly as a program, at least if the microkernel does the scheduling. It's not exactly like any of this should be news to you. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum