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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: schwab@suse.de, eliz@gnu.org, gscrivano@gmail.com, ams@gnu.org,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs & MAXPATHLEN
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 08:30:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85hde6rz82.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1E0SOd-0006bk-3l@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:11:35 -0400")

"Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     Well, it _is_ the "system" in "system call": a "system call" clearly
>     passes control to Linux.
>
> Actually it calls libc, and then libc invokes the kernel.

Uh no.  That is the system call _wrapper_ of the library.  The system
call itself is a trap or software interrupt.

Take a look at a dictionary: <URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_call>

>     > It isn't GNU/Linux, but like GNU/Linux, it includes
>     > Linux along with many other programs.
>
>     Linux is not really a program in the usual sense.
>
> It is a program, in the usual sense of the word.
> You must have some unusual sense of the word in mind.

<URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system>
<URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_program>

Looks more like a collection of services to me, somewhat like a
library.  A kernel that runs below a microkernel might be considered
to act partly as a program, at least if the microkernel does the
scheduling.

It's not exactly like any of this should be news to you.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-04  6:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-28 15:32 emacs & MAXPATHLEN Giuseppe Scrivano
2005-07-29  0:11 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-29  0:22   ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2005-07-29 13:29     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-07-29 13:54     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-29 18:30       ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2005-07-30  1:31       ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2005-07-30 10:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-30 11:27           ` Jan D.
2005-07-30 11:53           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-07-30 14:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-30 14:46               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-07-30 17:35               ` Andreas Schwab
2005-07-30 18:06                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-30 18:18                   ` Jan D.
2005-07-30 19:11                   ` Andreas Schwab
2005-08-01  0:46                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-01  8:58                   ` Andreas Schwab
2005-08-01 16:46                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-01 18:03                       ` David Kastrup
2005-08-03 13:33                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-03 14:09                           ` David Kastrup
2005-08-03 23:11                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-04  6:30                               ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-08-04 10:44                                 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-08-04 11:13                                   ` David Kastrup
2005-08-04 14:25                                     ` Sascha Wilde
2005-08-04 14:38                                       ` David Kastrup
2005-08-04 17:57                                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-08-04 18:11                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-04 18:41                                           ` David Kastrup
2005-08-04 18:46                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-04 19:07                                         ` Markus Gritsch
2005-08-01 18:52                       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-08-02 17:44                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-30 23:44             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-31  0:05               ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2005-07-30 11:49         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-07-30 12:23           ` Jan D.
2005-07-30 12:50             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-07-30 12:58               ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2005-07-30 13:11               ` Andreas Schwab
2005-07-30 13:38                 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2005-07-30 12:52           ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2005-07-30 15:17         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-30 17:18           ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2005-08-01  0:46             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-01 13:38               ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2005-07-29 13:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-30  3:34       ` Richard M. Stallman

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