From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>,
Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw.
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 23:20:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85hcvw7qdy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061215203326.GB2795@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "15 Dec 2006 20\:22\:46 +0100\, Fri\, 15 Dec 2006 20\:33\:26 +0000")
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> Yet we're Emacs experts. I think we're placing too little
> importance on the shock and emotional distress that such a bug
> [totally hosed fontification over an entire screen] will cause an
> ordinary Emacs user. Even highlighting these parens might well
> puzzle, rather than help, this user.
Fontification is known not to be perfect, and there is an easy way
around if you feel shocked: change the input. Such a change is
required for a number of other source code management tools like ctags
anyway.
This is a one-time effect. In contrast, editing slowdowns are
permanent and incurable.
There are other modes, like LaTeX-mode, where the fontification engine
has no chance of figuring out everything correctly. So one uses
simple hacks like
\def\xxx#1{\if$#1% $
where a comment is added that does nothing but close a $ math
environment that would otherwise be highlighted permanently.
People are _used_ to putting such stuff in if it annoys them too much.
It _is_ important, however, that there are easy workarounds. For that
reason, AUCTeX matches dollar signs in line comments (one developer
made them ignored out of "correctness" concerns, and I vetoes this,
since it is impossible to get TeX fontification correct automatically,
anyway, and making the workarounds harder is a nuisance).
In the case of C-mode, there is a perfect workaround that requires no
undue amount of tap-dancing.
I don't see any reason to introduce little-tested, slow code that
already has lead to infinite loops and quite a bit of trouble at this
point of time in pretest.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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2006-12-04 21:17 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-06 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 9:04 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-06 12:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-12-06 16:31 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-07 4:59 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-09 17:46 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-09 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-11 2:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 4:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-12 16:24 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-12 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-10 0:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 1:11 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-10 9:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 12:46 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-10 14:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 15:13 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-10 20:30 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-13 21:29 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 1:02 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 7:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 10:47 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 18:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 18:53 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 20:21 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 20:35 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 22:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 22:51 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 0:53 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-15 10:35 ` Johan Bockgård
2006-12-14 21:53 ` What `opic0ids' really is [was: Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw.] Stuart D. Herring
2006-12-15 7:32 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw martin rudalics
2006-12-15 19:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:20 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-12-16 10:17 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 11:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:02 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 12:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:14 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 12:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:51 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 17:28 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 18:36 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for c-basic-common-init Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 18:45 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-17 22:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 22:59 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-18 0:06 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 10:17 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 18:14 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 18:27 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 19:00 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 19:33 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 19:59 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 20:10 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 21:26 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 22:43 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 23:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 23:40 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 0:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-17 4:02 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-17 10:32 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 10:26 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 10:59 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-17 11:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:01 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-18 0:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 22:11 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 23:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 23:37 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 20:22 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-16 22:21 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 17:29 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 18:56 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 22:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 23:03 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 10:45 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 18:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 21:39 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 23:14 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-12-14 7:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 7:51 ` Miles Bader
2006-12-15 23:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 9:18 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 1:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 7:23 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 7:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 8:32 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 18:44 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 22:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-08 5:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-09 9:42 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-10 8:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 10:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 11:58 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 14:30 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-12-11 1:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-06 20:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-06 22:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-07 5:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 5:03 Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Richard Stallman
2006-12-15 6:31 ` Sean O'Rourke
2006-12-15 16:08 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 16:16 ` Sean O'Rourke
2006-12-15 16:44 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 20:46 ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-12-15 21:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-15 22:31 ` Sean O'Rourke
2006-12-15 16:57 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 23:33 ` Stefan Monnier
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