From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: & and M-& to run programs asynchronously Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:41:16 +0200 Message-ID: <85hcb26bs3.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87hcbkpo0e.fsf@gmail.com> <86y74wzeq1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <874p7ifonh.fsf@jurta.org> <873amryzdu.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <86wsk3kx8f.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87tzf2omvy.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215373331 9138 80.91.229.12 (6 Jul 2008 19:42:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Clemente , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 06 21:42:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KFa8E-0002eH-IP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:42:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43287 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KFa7N-0007eU-12 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:41:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KFa6y-0007TY-Kb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:41:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KFa6x-0007So-0H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:41:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44076 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KFa6w-0007Sk-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:41:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-13.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.53]:60247) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KFa6w-0007ik-It for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:41:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.27]) by mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547E01E50EB; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:41:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.43]) by mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B81623D320; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:41:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-054-141.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.54.141]) by mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF773226E2; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:41:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id BEBDF1C464F5; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:41:16 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87tzf2omvy.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:54:01 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7407/Mon Jun 9 04:21:00 2008 on mail-in-03.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100394 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >> Daniel Clemente writes: >> >>> What's the status of this feature? Several problems were tackled >>> and several suggestions were proposed, but no consensus was >>> reached. >>> >>> Discussion brought following topics: >>> >>> - & in dired is not intuitive for dired-flag-garbage-files >> >> Some alternatives that are not taken are ",", "@", "'", "`". The >> garbage bag symbol "@" might be suitable. > > Garbage bag?! It is a human in NetHack. And & is a demon. And ! is a potion. And hjkl are homunculi, jaguars, killer bees and leocrottae (or even worse, vi motion commands). I don't think we should let our keybindings be influenced all too much by Nethack. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum