From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Make check in trunk Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 14:09:57 -0500 Message-ID: <85ha0n42yi.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <83ppfef59r.fsf@gnu.org> <87wq9m813a.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83d2bef0wk.fsf@gnu.org> <837g1lgajz.fsf@gnu.org> <86bnqxobb5.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409857907 3985 80.91.229.3 (4 Sep 2014 19:11:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 19:11:47 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 04 21:11:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XPcRX-00049S-01 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:11:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53703 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPcRW-0002aM-Hx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:11:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39809) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPcRC-0002Vv-Lw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:11:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPcR5-00036o-1J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:11:18 -0400 Original-Received: from dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com ([107.14.73.231]:37180 helo=dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPcR4-00036Y-T1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:11:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [70.94.38.149] ([70.94.38.149:52435] helo=TAKVER) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 82/A3-18326-F09B8045; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 19:10:07 +0000 In-Reply-To: <86bnqxobb5.fsf@gmail.com> (Andy Moreton's message of "Wed, 03 Sep 2014 00:24:46 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (windows-nt) X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.118:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=btPCBSqi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=AppmJ/7ZOOFWL/q6u6u93g==:117 a=AppmJ/7ZOOFWL/q6u6u93g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=9XSUBuVRJI8A:10 a=87YrpepNNX0A:10 a=o_R75loqY_IA:10 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=T5Q84luVx3H94vS8QacA:9 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: BaiduSpider X-Received-From: 107.14.73.231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174016 Archived-At: Andy Moreton writes: > On Tue 02 Sep 2014, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> From: Andy Moreton >>> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 18:52:30 +0100 >>> >>> I switched over last week, in order to start using the Mingw64 compiler >>> in a painless way. >> >> Are you saying that MSYS cannot run MinGW64? I was under the impression that it could not. It would certainly require compiling the 64 bit gcc toolchain from scratch; it is _far_ easier to install MSYS2. >> If not, what do you mean by "painless"? What kind of pain did you >> experience before? > > The mingw project is rudderless, and up until only a couple of weeks ago > had been advertising a broken compiler and runtime as its current > release for months. > > Setting up a working MSYS/mingw build environment with a consistent set > of libraries for optional emacs features (images, XML, etc.) is a > pain. The mingw/MSYS world does not have any package management worth > the name. > > MSYS2 is simply a more recent fork from Cygwin than MSYS. The project > has 32bit and 64bit MSYS2 environments, and packages including mingw and mingw64 > (32 and 64bit) toolchains and libs. It is far easier to install a full > consistent set of dependencies with a working package manager. > > I want a simple way to get a full featured up to date emacs build, and > then use it for productive work. I do not want to spend my time tracking > down the right combination of tools and libraries (or have to build all > of them myself). At the moment, MSYS2 with a mingw64 toolchain fits that > requirement far better than mingw/MSYS. +2 :) -- -- Stephe