From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tumme menu in Dired, what to do about it? Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 14:06:36 +0200 Message-ID: <85fyiyz4tv.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <7dbe73ed0602121642h79944040vb252a904c7af93a5@mail.gmail.com> <7dbe73ed0605241154n70d2a2d7u84603fb287b35582@mail.gmail.com> <17525.26010.540441.560810@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <7dbe73ed0605250457j7c9dbbf6ubec96c45cb1daa0f@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148558983 8657 80.91.229.2 (25 May 2006 12:09:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 12:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Nick Roberts , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 25 14:09:41 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FjEeo-0005z0-5j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 14:09:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FjEen-0007VS-J9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 08:09:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FjEcZ-0005dx-Mx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 08:07:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FjEcV-0005aV-Rx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 08:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FjEcU-0005a0-Tv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 08:07:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FjEh9-0001sw-Sx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 08:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FjEcI-0006hG-DQ; Thu, 25 May 2006 08:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 137251C4D3B3; Thu, 25 May 2006 14:06:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Mathias Dahl" In-Reply-To: <7dbe73ed0605250457j7c9dbbf6ubec96c45cb1daa0f@mail.gmail.com> (Mathias Dahl's message of "Thu, 25 May 2006 13:57:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55264 Archived-At: "Mathias Dahl" writes: > Richard replied: > >> There is no room for an additional menu bar menu in Dired mode >> on a text terminal. The menu bar is nearly full already. > >> Putting it in as a submenu of some existing Dired menu would be ok. >> Perhaps "Immediate". > > So I created the sub menu there. > >> Shouldn't this item be under "Regexp"? >> ... >> And this one (and others) under "Operate"? > > Probably, in one sense. But do we really want to mess with these > "standard" or "old" Dired menus? If there were a "Dired tools" menu, > tumme would fit well as a sub menu under that one. In my opinion, stuff should be there where the user would expect it according to its functionality, not according to package boundaries. >> Assuming tumme-tag-remove deletes tags, tumme-tag-delete sounds better. > > I trust your judgement on this one (my English skills are not good > enough). I am opposed. "tumme-tag-delete" sounds like it would delete tagged files, not like it would remove tags from files. "delete" sounds more appropriate with more physical entities than just tags. You can, after "deleting" a tag, put it right on afterwards again. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum