From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default of jit-lock-stealth-time Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:10:09 +0100 Message-ID: <85fy8tuf8u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <85tzxazb8r.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ps7x4clj.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <85irdpweuq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <45E2E3AC.6050300@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1172502663 5756 80.91.229.12 (26 Feb 2007 15:11:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 26 16:10:54 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HLhV6-0006nQ-3O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:10:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HLhV5-0001uO-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:10:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HLhUW-0001a2-4L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:10:16 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HLhUU-0001Y5-2v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:10:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HLhUT-0001Xu-Sh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:10:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.52]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1HLhUT-00009f-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:10:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-03-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.15]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96434F7C2E; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:10:11 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.52]) by mail-in-03-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823722D3898; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:10:11 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-006-098.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.6.98]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B97F8387; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:10:11 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 348011D17413; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:10:09 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <45E2E3AC.6050300@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon\, 26 Feb 2007 14\:42\:04 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:66855 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: >> So it seems plain stupid to release it with a setting that will impact >> and annoy users and cause a support burden after the release. > > While I agree with all of David's arguments (and even add the one > that a buffer tail is stealthily refontified after every single > buffer change followed by 16 secs idleness) I'm afraid that setting > this to nil won't remove any support burden. Many major modes still > work better when they are allowed to fontify a buffer from beginning > to end. But stealth mode does not guarantee that at all. It is completely irreproducible whether or not some buffer has been completely stealthified. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum