From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default of jit-lock-stealth-time Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:59:12 +0100 Message-ID: <85fy8riafz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <85tzxazb8r.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ps7x4clj.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <85irdpweuq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ejocik1a.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85hct8ovog.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1172609989 32435 80.91.229.12 (27 Feb 2007 20:59:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 27 21:59:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HM9Q3-0007Ss-SW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:59:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HM9Q3-0005fB-IF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:59:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HM9Ps-0005f6-Ji for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:59:20 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HM9Pr-0005el-8R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:59:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HM9Pr-0005ei-23 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:59:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-10.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.50]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1HM9Po-0005dP-PI; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:59:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-11-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.28]) by mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB642D49FD; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:59:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.43]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36AD3465AB; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:59:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-055-100.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.55.100]) by mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1C3275E26; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:59:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 3699F1D17415; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:59:12 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue\, 27 Feb 2007 22\:54\:27 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:66952 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Inaccurate. First, font-lock was turned off by default in _all_ > versions of Emacs since its introduction (in v19.x, AFAIR). More > importantly, a large majority of users turned it on, I'd like to see some statistics supporting that. A large majority of users does not touch defaults, according to my experience. > so that jit-lock-stealth _was_, indeed, widely used since v21.1, > where jit-lock was introduced. Anyway, when people turned it on, they expected to have drawbacks (which was why it was not on by default). But people now get font lock mode without asking for it. >> Quite a bit of fixes went into font-lock in order to make it a >> defensible choice to enable it by default. > > Inaccurate. Improvements to jit-lock notwithstanding, the main > reason for turning it on was that we decided the garden-variety CPUs > are nowadays fast enough to fontify buffers without annoyance to > most users. Our memories differ then. I remember distinctly that several `pathological' cases were cleared up before Richard agreed to enable font locking by default. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum