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From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 39557@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#39557: 27.0.60; Elisp manual, doc about bignums
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 13:23:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85ftfexs5s.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5fe049c8-18b5-4941-9e34-c320500f49d2@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 12 Feb 2020 13:36:20 -0800 (PST)")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> There's nothing the least bit sarcastic in any of that.
[...]
> avoid attributing malevolence when a simple, constructive reading will
> do.  The golden rule implies offering the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah, I didn't intend to attribute malevolence; you wondered how I read
sarcasm (which, even if it might not be the best technique for
communication, isn't the same as ill-intent) in your message, so I
explained.

> Actually, I was just expressing my surprise,
> as Eli usually shepherds new doc sufficiently
> well that such things don't happen.  And I
> mean that sincerely, as a compliment.

Although I do believe you meant it that way, I still struggle to read
this as a compliment, even with the added explanation.

> to the technical content - the problem
> reported?  Any thoughts on that?

The idea is recommend using eql for comparing integers first, and move
the description of eq and fixnum/bignum distinction to the next
paragraph, right?

And also to document when the reader returns fixnums or bignums.  Though
I guess that might instead be solved by making the rule you cited
stronger to something like:

    Emacs always represents integers in fixnum range as a fixnum, not a
    bignum.

(Assuming that's true, which I believe it is)





  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-13 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-10 23:55 bug#39557: 27.0.60; Elisp manual, doc about bignums Drew Adams
2020-02-11 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-11 21:46   ` Noam Postavsky
2020-02-11 22:34     ` Drew Adams
2020-02-12 15:53       ` Noam Postavsky
2020-02-12 21:36         ` Drew Adams
2020-02-13 18:23           ` Noam Postavsky [this message]
2020-02-13 21:03             ` Drew Adams
2020-02-12 20:06     ` Richard Stallman
2020-02-13 23:43     ` Richard Stallman
2020-02-17 22:05 ` Paul Eggert
2020-02-17 23:19   ` Drew Adams
2020-02-17 23:52     ` Paul Eggert
2020-02-18  1:52       ` Drew Adams
2020-02-18  3:13         ` Paul Eggert
2020-09-25 11:18           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found] <<3d420026-bb32-413f-9a9c-304240aa82e2@default>
     [not found] ` <<8336bhrrb4.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-02-11 18:26   ` Drew Adams
2020-02-11 19:14     ` Eli Zaretskii

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