From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Use of "Action stamps" in commit messages Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:25:07 -0500 Message-ID: <85f9a968-ba72-5b00-761e-a4449b073a7f@cs.ucla.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531495396 7937 195.159.176.226 (13 Jul 2018 15:23:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 15:23:16 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Cc: Emacs developers To: Eric Raymond Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 13 17:23:12 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fdzuZ-0001xY-Mo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:23:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37844 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fdzwg-00066z-PK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:25:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48283) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fdzwZ-00064w-2H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:25:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fdzwV-00051Q-Ub for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:25:15 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:48272) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fdzwV-0004ya-Mg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:25:11 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B447016066F; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 08:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id RyWIaogSYuAn; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09747160656; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id biPRf7G52CIa; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 08:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.8] (ip72-206-6-38.fv.ks.cox.net [72.206.6.38]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B694C160653; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 08:25:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227346 Archived-At: Eric Raymond designed that format, partly to be robust in the presence of VC backend changes. I'll send this message to him directly, to give him a heads-up, as this has been a long thread that he's likely tuned out of. On 07/13/2018 04:13 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > .On 12 July 2018 at 11:34, Basil L. Contovounesios wrote: > >> from CONTRIBUTE: >> >> One way to identify revisions is by quoting their summary line. >> Another is with an action stamp - an RFC3339 date followed by ! >> followed by the committer's email - for example, >> "2014-01-16T05:43:35Z!esr@thyrsus.com". > This reminds that I'd like to remove this "Action stamp" thing as > commit message convention. Action stamps are fine for what they were > designed for: acting as a unique commit id for the repository > conversion software "reposurgeon", but they are not very friendly to > human readers. > > A date followed by the summary line is sufficient to identify a commit > in a vc system agnostic way, reads nicer, and gives more info up front > to a human. > > See also Bug#20609. > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=20609