From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:09:01 +0200 Message-ID: <85ejj0i7ci.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <85644dsgpo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185131359 30450 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2007 19:09:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 22 21:09:17 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ICgns-0000u9-Db for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:09:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ICgnr-0005DB-El for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:09:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ICgnn-0005Cw-F2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:09:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ICgnl-0005Ck-1s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:09:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ICgnk-0005Ch-SV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-13.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.53]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ICgnj-00028e-Ko; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:09:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.30]) by mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A701E537A; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:09:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.52]) by mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702651B8E02; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:09:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-022-107.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.22.107]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52E98C474; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:09:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id CA0941D1E182; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:09:01 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun\, 22 Jul 2007 14\:37\:39 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/3729/Sun Jul 22 18:10:33 2007 on mail-in-12.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75318 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I consider all of those proposals a change for the worse for a > beginner, and the splash screen is a tool dedicated to the beginner. > > Why do you think it is worse for the beginner? "all of those proposals" meant the three concrete suggestions by Drew (which you did not also cite, and for which I explained the reason of me not liking them): the discussed state of the proposal was quite better without his amendments. But it would be much better than what we have now in CVS in either case. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum