From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (aset UNIBYTE-STRING MULTIBYTE-CHAR) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:40:02 +0100 Message-ID: <85ejbfyxfh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <871w7g91dz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874pcctqtm.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87r6fg735c.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87odakqqtn.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203028836 30531 80.91.229.12 (14 Feb 2008 22:40:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org, handa@ni.aist.go.jp, Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 14 23:40:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JPml8-0002dn-Pk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:40:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPmke-0002Bi-SB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:40:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPmkb-0002Ba-OQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:40:17 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPmka-0002BO-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:40:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPmka-0002BL-6n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:40:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-16.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.56]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JPmkS-0001Rm-Vz; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:40:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-03-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.15]) by mail-in-16.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E0C1F7354; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:40:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by mail-in-03-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5217D2D3CF9; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:40:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-034-146.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.34.146]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A9535E710; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:40:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id F06A71C4CE32; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:40:02 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:10:59 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/5815/Thu Feb 14 21:07:08 2008 on mail-in-06.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89107 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > While I don't consider Python as the best design by far (the lack > of type system rules it out right away), Elisp's dynamic scoping > mixed with buffer-local and frame-local and terminal-local > variables is pretty horrendous, > > I think it is elegant. Dynamic scoping is absolutely essential for an > Emacs-like editor, as explained in the Emacs paper from 1981. Shhhhh. Stefan is still in Cc, and he'll be sad to hear that his lexbind branch can't possibly exist. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum