From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to restore the layout? Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:29:31 -0400 Message-ID: <85ehbjsjl0.fsf@member.fsf.org> References: <51C5AA68.4000204@alice.it> <51CA0D4C.7080204@alice.it> <51CC3E42.7020409@alice.it> <51CC4CC1.3030202@alice.it> <51CC8403.1030009@gmx.at> <51CCA56A.8000508@gmx.at> <51CD49CF.1090103@gmx.at> <51CD5489.10902@gmx.at> <2FB4C583-960C-4DA8-8B2E-29DF8D96770E@swipnet.se> <83d2r6fsbw.fsf@gnu.org> <8338s2fkod.fsf@gnu.org> <85zju9tkcp.fsf@member.fsf.org> <83ehble3ps.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372606209 30924 80.91.229.3 (30 Jun 2013 15:30:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 15:30:09 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 30 17:30:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UtJZn-0006wG-TQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:30:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42585 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtJZn-0006Nq-7q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:30:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33369) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtJZk-0006Ll-EW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:30:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtJZi-0005oF-Ph for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.21]:53933) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtJZi-0005n9-LQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from TAKVER ([unknown] [71.241.247.125]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MP7007Y8PP7MA30@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 10:29:47 -0500 (CDT) In-reply-to: <83ehble3ps.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 29 Jun 2013 11:11:27 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (windows-nt) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.46.173.21 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161354 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stephen Leake >> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 04:03:02 -0400 >> >> >> > Just make sure we re-create all those frames, and if they need to be >> >> > resized or moved, be it by the window manager or manually, so be it. >> >> > It will already be a great improvement from what we had before, >> >> > whereby users would have manually recreate every frame. >> >> >> >> For some users/use cases, not for others. >> > >> > Please give examples of uses where what I suggest would be profoundly >> > wrong or nonsensical. >> >> I would consider it a serious bug if Emacs did not restore frame >> positions in "restore desktop". > > So do you also consider it a "serious bug" when today's desktop fails > to restore buffers, because their files disappeared or moved? No, moving or deleting those files outside Emacs is a user action, so the user should expect that. On the other hand, I carefully set up my Emacs frame config, so I expect it to be restored when I save and restore the desktop. -- -- Stephe