From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Your commit 7409a79 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:38:39 -0600 Message-ID: <85egs9btkw.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <83h9x917il.fsf@gnu.org> <85k324h0hg.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83k324yv44.fsf@gnu.org> <85tx17dqzy.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <54850587.4080006@cs.ucla.edu> <877fy2kh7j.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83sigqxhec.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418081966 567 80.91.229.3 (8 Dec 2014 23:39:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:39:26 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 00:39:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7td-0008F1-EF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 00:39:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36687 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7td-0002iX-2S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:39:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7tL-0002iR-F5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:39:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7tF-0007Id-WE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:38:59 -0500 Original-Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([70.40.196.235]:49035) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7tF-0007IP-PJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:38:53 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 11872 invoked by uid 0); 8 Dec 2014 23:38:50 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2014 23:38:50 -0000 Original-Received: from host114.hostmonster.com ([74.220.207.114]) by CMOut01 with id RBen1p00J2UdiVW01Beq6d; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:38:50 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=dfgTgxne c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:117 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:17 a=DsvgjBjRAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=fNEgcOh0sVsA:10 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=hEr_IkYJT6EA:10 a=jrwKn-8xaegA:10 a=A92cGCtB03wA:10 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=Wn2H3lT2AAAA:8 a=ca8hkL6nsqx6hB7HkyAA:9 Original-Received: from [70.94.38.149] (port=54726 helo=TAKVER) by host114.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7t9-0007kZ-3H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:38:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83sigqxhec.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:58:35 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.94 (windows-nt) X-Identified-User: {2442:host114.hostmonster.com:stephele:stephe-leake.org} {sentby:smtp auth 70.94.38.149 authed with stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 70.40.196.235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179496 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" >> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 11:28:48 +0900 >> Cc: Stephen Leake , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> I would do the other work that the rename is intended to support on a >> branch, do the rename, and then a merge commit with a commit message >> like >> >> Clarify CONTRIBUTE and make it prominently visible. >> >> Step one in a revolutionary program to attract more contributors >> to Emacs. >> >> - Move from etc/ to top level for visibility in ls and git-browser. >> - Specify format of commit log summaries. >> - etc, etc >> >> Then the rename commit can be trivial with a simple statement of fact: > > Exactly my thoughts. > >> Rename etc/CONTRIBUTE to ./CONTRIBUTE. >> >> Of course this style of committing and logs would be an insuperable >> barrier to contribution if it were made policy. ;-) > > If people object to having instructions in CONTRIBUTE that might be > not 100% necessary, I wonder if we can put recommendations in > CONTRIBUTE without making it a policy that is enforced. Something > like "we recommend ...". We can use "shall" or "must" for requirements, "should" for recommendations. That's standard NASA practice. That is _not_ the language used in the Gnu coding standards; that uses "should" and "please" and other random words. It's not at all clear how that relates to required/recommended. -- -- Stephe