From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Phil Sung <psung@MIT.EDU>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: guided tour suggestions
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:45:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85d4zi6jdo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87645ai4cl.fsf@phil.mit.edu> (Phil Sung's message of "Tue\, 26 Jun 2007 21\:16\:42 -0400")
Phil Sung <psung@MIT.EDU> writes:
> Previous suggestions which were made:
>
> * Mention help features earlier
>
> I now mention the manual close to the beginning, and function documentation
> right after the section on editing commands.
>
> * Emphasize Emacs as a coding environment
>
> There are now screenshots of GDB, compile, grep, and shell, and further
> information about what programming major modes can do.
>
> Again, the draft is at:
> <http://stuff.mit.edu/iap/emacs/emacs-guided-tour-1.html>
>
> If no one objects, I will ask the webmasters to replace the version
> on gnu.org with this soon.
I just took a look at it: Ugh! This is supposed to _advertise_ Emacs,
and I have enough of a fight convincing people that Emacs has made the
step into the twenty-first century. The guided tour is completely
unsuitable for that. It shows an Emacs a) compiled without a modern
toolkit (Gtk+, Windows or Mac) b) without menus c) without toolbars d)
without scrollbars (for heaven's sake!) e) without font diversity.
The only thing hinting at fonts is a man-page (not info or even
woman-page!) with some bold headings, and then those headings have
the identical crowded monospace size as the rest. f) without file
dialogs g) without tooltips h) without any non-ASCII character
The only exception to this theme is a screenshot of a Tetris game,
quite irrelevant.
Would it be possible to make the screenshots with emacs -Q so that
people see what they get out of the box instead of after an
Emacs-18-tty-happy user has finished refurbishing Emacs 22 to a
Zen-like emptiness?
It is, after all, Emacs 22 we are trying to sell to the unwashed
masses.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-27 5:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-03 18:03 guided tour suggestions Karl Berry
2007-05-03 20:34 ` Phil Sung
2007-06-02 20:52 ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-02 21:04 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-02 22:08 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-03 8:23 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-06-03 15:32 ` David House
2007-06-11 20:01 ` Phil Sung
2007-06-11 20:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-27 1:16 ` Phil Sung
2007-06-27 4:28 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-27 5:45 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-06-27 6:04 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-27 7:37 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28 7:02 ` Phil Sung
2007-06-28 7:20 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28 9:54 ` David House
2007-06-28 10:25 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-09 7:15 ` Phil Sung
2007-08-09 7:36 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-13 8:09 ` Phil Sung
2007-06-28 8:20 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-28 8:36 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-29 16:41 ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-30 1:16 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-30 10:03 ` David House
2007-07-22 10:59 ` Dieter Wilhelm
2007-05-03 22:30 ` David Koppelman
2007-05-03 22:41 ` Daniel Brockman
2007-05-04 5:09 ` Dieter Wilhelm
2007-05-04 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-05 14:39 ` Randal L. Schwartz
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