From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Bazaar repository Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:35:58 +0100 Message-ID: <85d4px4edd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87skyvse7k.fsf@xmission.com> <86ejae96t4.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <47DA3601.3040507@arbash-meinel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205501778 4131 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2008 13:36:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@suse.de, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Matthieu Moy , bazaar@lists.canonical.com To: John Arbash Meinel Original-X-From: bazaar-bounces@lists.canonical.com Fri Mar 14 14:36:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvbg-bazaar-ng@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from chlorine.canonical.com ([91.189.94.204]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JaA5M-0001zc-TG for gcvbg-bazaar-ng@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:36:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chlorine.canonical.com) by chlorine.canonical.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JaA4n-0000AK-4c; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.48]) by chlorine.canonical.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JaA4k-0000A0-52 for bazaar@lists.canonical.com; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:35:58 +0000 Original-Received: from mail-in-20-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-20-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.85]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9255A27B038; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:35:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.57]) by mail-in-20-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1FB10789C; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:35:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-012-006.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.12.6]) by mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6452BB952; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:35:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id AB5941C4F906; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:35:58 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <47DA3601.3040507@arbash-meinel.com> (John Arbash Meinel's message of "Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:23:29 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6229/Fri Mar 14 14:18:43 2008 on mail-in-17.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: bazaar@lists.canonical.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: bazaar discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bazaar-bounces@lists.canonical.com Errors-To: bazaar-bounces@lists.canonical.com Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general:38566 gmane.emacs.devel:92548 Archived-At: John Arbash Meinel writes: > The biggest reason 'bzr log' is slow is because we spend some time > analyzing the ancestry to give a "pretty" view, while git/hg do not. git most certainly does. > Specifically, when you do "bzr log" we traverse the ancestry to figure > out when revisions were merged, etc. What makes you think git doesn't? > I believe plain "git log" just starts outputting the revisions as it > encounters them, and "hg log" also outputs them as they are stored. git has a large variety of options for selecting order and subset and relation of what to output to the log. It is still fast, even while doing rename/copying detection on the fly. > (I believe 'git log' defaults to showing the log based on a local sort > by date. Neither one tries to figure out that A1 and A2 were merged > into tip, which is another step that 'bzr log' does.) I suggest you actually check your beliefs against the actual program. "The reason the other software is faster must be because it sucks in comparison to ours." is a fallacy. git has been developed by a set of kernel-savvy developers working on a large code base with a necessity for high speed (Linus merges several hundred patches from different repositories daily).