From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:17:01 +0200 Message-ID: <85d4lioo1u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <36366a980807091202rd3b6521jc9fa45d321bc9d37@mail.gmail.com> <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4877C94E.3090202@gmail.com> <87mykmsx6b.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215893841 12844 80.91.229.12 (12 Jul 2008 20:17:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bastien Guerry Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 12 22:18:07 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KHlXh-0003xZ-3U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:18:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55119 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KHlWo-0006r4-Qz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:17:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KHlWk-0006pP-Ar for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:17:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KHlWi-0006ny-OP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:17:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52956 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KHlWi-0006nl-I8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-14.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.54]:47679) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KHlWi-0004IP-CK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.30]) by mail-in-14.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A570187A60; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:17:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-14.arcor-online.net (mail-in-14.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.54]) by mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC1B1B8E41; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:17:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-040-057.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.40.57]) by mail-in-14.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC67187A65; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:17:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id D12EA1CFAEF1; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:17:01 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87mykmsx6b.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien Guerry's message of "Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:46:20 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/7695/Sat Jul 12 21:12:59 2008 on mail-in-14.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100622 Archived-At: Bastien Guerry writes: > Richard M Stallman writes: > >> The crucial point IMO is letting go of the "we are best" attitude. >> >> We don't claim to be "best" in a technical sense, because that is a >> side issue anyway. What we claim to be is _ethical_, in contrast to >> the evil of proprietary software. > > I think Lennart was referring to the "unix vendors". I can believe > they claim to be "the best" in a technical sense. When comparing themselves to Windows? Isn't that like using a beauty pageant for picking the opponent for a fight with Jabba the Hutt? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum