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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:213306 Archived-At: On Fri, March 24, 2017 4:31 pm, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 10:37:42 +0000 phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip > Lord) wrote: > > > PL> Ultimately, if our main criteria for a CI and code review system is > PL> "does it work with EWW" or "can we have an emacs interface", then I > PL> think that it's likely we are going to end up with something that is > PL> poorly functional. Picking a good system and then making Emacs work > with PL> it seems a better way forward. > > > Agreed; it's probably going to be possible to use the GitLab API. It's > pretty thorough https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/api/README.html Just so. I think we are jagging here. We have two CI systems that people have looked at (gitlab, and I have buildbot working). gitlab also does code review, and git front end hosting. Which leaves us with the three technical/social questions: 1) Are John, Eli and the other devels interested and willing to sanction adding this form of infrastructure (even as a trial) 2) Does the FSF have resource to provide the bare metal hosting assuming we want to self-host, even as a trial? 3) Who is prepared to do an installation? And, I would also pose a fourth moral question: 4) In addition to gnu/linux, can we provide a windows and mac builder, given that this would by necessity involve non-free software (i.e. the OSes). In answer to question 3), I'm happy to do installation for a buildbot based solution, since I already tried it just for "fun". Phil