From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What holds the release Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:48:56 +0200 Message-ID: <85aclqzief.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <8564wi2ag7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <17070.36649.525270.871681@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118921786 22256 80.91.229.2 (16 Jun 2005 11:36:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 16 13:36:24 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Disey-0007PC-Kr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:35:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiskM-0003MQ-L9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DisWg-0000S0-2H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:27:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DisWc-0000Py-0y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:27:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DisWY-00008F-I5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:27:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DisNO-0005Si-G6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:17:38 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DisLN-0006bd-Jy; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:15:33 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 715241C4CE19; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:48:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:09:39 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38948 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38948 Juanma Barranquero writes: > On 6/16/05, Richard Stallman wrote: > >> I do not want to do releases more often by lowering the quality or >> having outdated manuals. > > OK 100% wrt the manuals. "Lowering the quality" seems loaded > language to me, given the different POVs about the relative > importance of FOR-RELEASE items. Stop right here. That the various FOR-RELEASE items are rated differently does not mean that people think they are all unimportant. > And 100% disagree with you that branching for a release and leaving > the trunk for new development would "divert resources" (you stated > this position back then, if I'm not misremembering). Stop right here again. That people don't chime in and shout "me too, me too" whenever Richard says something does not mean that they are in disagreement. If people don't consider it necessary of having the same old arguments repeated all over again by more than one person, that does not mean that they have become less valid. So please refrain from assigning opinions to developers at your whim. Speak for yourself. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum