From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch: Syntax and Hard Newlines Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:08:55 +0100 Message-ID: <85ac2epfzc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <455F19FC.6@gmx.at> <87wt5svkz1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <45603BEB.6050006@gmx.at> <85odr14qej.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85ejrvmvyo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1164542967 11629 80.91.229.2 (26 Nov 2006 12:09:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 26 13:09:26 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoIp0-0006J1-MP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:09:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoIp0-0001VG-4u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:09:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GoIop-0001UL-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:09:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GoIon-0001U8-Go for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:09:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoIon-0001U5-C8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:09:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [212.7.152.120] (helo=mxout03.versatel.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoIok-00017K-WE; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:09:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mx03.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id kAQC90Xq009939; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:09:00 +0100 Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (i5387A63C.versanet.de [83.135.166.60]) by mx03.versatel.de (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.11) with ESMTP id kAQC900H004137; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:09:00 +0100 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 5D4ED1C29846; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:08:55 +0100 (CET) Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-Reply-To: (Kim F. Storm's message of "Sun\, 26 Nov 2006 12\:42\:14 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.91 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:62812 Archived-At: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> I think someone said Kim has already implemented the change at the >> display level. I would like to see as many users as possible report >> on trying that feature together with screen-lines or window-lines. >> This is for deciding what to do after the coming release. > > I'm not sure my patches will apply cleanly these days, and I don't > have time to look at them now. > > If we install them (or something similar), I think we should modify > the primitives like next-line and previous-line to do the right thing > (whatever that is) in those cases. I don't think we should modify those in order not to cause trouble where they are used programmatically. Either we add an optional argument SCREEN-LINES to them which the interactive form sets to t, or we create separate next-screen-line and previous-screen-line macros that can be bound to the keys in question. It is conceivable that we would do this just in longlines-mode or similar modes. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum