From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MAINTAINERS file Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:45:47 +0100 Message-ID: <85abldy050.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <18375.18663.981150.252393@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87od9wt19m.fsf@elegiac.orebokech.com> <87tzjnvjhc.fsf@red-bean.com> <87zlte3848.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <877igipc17.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204719133 4934 80.91.229.12 (5 Mar 2008 12:12:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Emacs Devel , Thien-Thi Nguyen , rms@gnu.org To: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 05 13:12:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JWsU6-0004nM-7H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:12:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JWsTY-0007us-QN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:12:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JWsSr-0007WG-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:11:17 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JWsSq-0007Vj-QA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:11:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JWsSq-0007VY-Dg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:11:16 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JWsSq-0007KR-2g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:11:16 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JWsSj-0002ya-HU; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:11:09 -0500 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 3CFB61C162C1; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:45:46 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <877igipc17.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> (Jeremy Maitin-Shepard's message of "Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:41:24 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91370 Archived-At: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard writes: > More seriously, I think the goal of the GNU project should be to > promote free software. [...] > You may argue that promoting the "GNU" name is important for promoting > free software, but I don't buy that. [...] > I think the most significant barrier to greater appreciation for the > idea of free software is the fact that it is very hard for > non-programmers to understand or appreciate the idea of free software, > and the vast majority of computer users are non-programmers. Which is why something like the name with which something is mentioned in the news to non-programmers makes an important difference. I certainly consider the "GNU/Linux" naming issue a public relations disaster for the FSF. But it can't be denied that its primary goal, rising awareness towards the GNU project (though not necessarily sympathy) is being served by it. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum