From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-x 3 (split-window-horizontally) & C-x 1 (delete-other-windows) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 23:19:31 +0200 Message-ID: <85abj478kc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87hcdcio9y.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <481F6A6F.6020509@gnu.org> <878wyoijjl.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <481F74A7.80908@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210022430 17238 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2008 21:20:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 21:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tassilo Horn , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 05 23:21:04 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jt878-0000jW-3V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 23:20:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37686 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jt86Q-0003Uy-CH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 17:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jt85x-0003I2-Tm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 17:19:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jt85w-0003HB-AL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 17:19:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56777 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jt85v-0003H2-Vb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 17:19:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.48]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jt85v-0008Oh-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 17:19:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.27]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2238E27AE93; Mon, 5 May 2008 23:19:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.50]) by mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B8523D8A3; Mon, 5 May 2008 23:19:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-023-121.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.23.121]) by mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27702351AB; Mon, 5 May 2008 23:19:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B63FF1CC1A23; Mon, 5 May 2008 23:19:32 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <481F74A7.80908@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon, 05 May 2008 22:57:11 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/7036/Mon May 5 20:56:03 2008 on mail-in-10.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96541 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: >> You don't need an extra package, but it seems you have to disable >> scroll-bar-mode. (IMO that's a bug, isn't it?) > > If you use fringes you can try the attached functions. I once tried > to detect lateral down-mouse-1's on the scroll-bar but gave up soon. Please don't. I find it a complete abomination that MS Windows' scrollbars snap back if you accidentally skid off sideways while dragging (dragging exactly vertically is rather hard). Having this operation resize the windows would be even worse. I don't want to be forced into having to steady my hand horizontally when doing a vertical operation. The annoyance possibly would be less if the larger of the drag offsets (X or Y) would win out, but that means that the drag mode might jump from one to the other with a somewhat jarring effect. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum