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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Jean-Christophe Helary
	<jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: "Emacs Lisp Packages" chapter in the Emacs manual
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 08:13:13 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85aacf7d-51cc-420a-a53b-f16f2e497106@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0BBC80E8-7A74-4DB4-8C13-AF2AAFF04B4B@traduction-libre.org>

In my opinion (just one user), a user's notion of
"installing" is one thing.  Loading a Lisp file
is another thing.  There's some overlap, but the
Elisp, and even the Emacs, manual should at least
present _loading_ Lisp code (byte-compiled or not).

And in that context, `require', `provide', and
"features" are important constructs to document.
There's no wall between Elisp programmers and
Emacs users.  Many users are lispers, and many who
are not could be, to everyone's advantage.

I don't think the Emacs doc should tell users not
to use `require'.  It can certainly tell them how
convenient it may be to use the package system.
But package installing is not exactly the same
thing as loading Lisp files, and yes, each can be
useful for Emacs users - at least some users.

Just one opinion.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-11 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-09 15:02 "Emacs Lisp Packages" chapter in the Emacs manual Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-09 15:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-09 16:47   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-10  2:19     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-10 14:17       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-10 15:05         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-10 16:49           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-10 17:13             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-10 19:28               ` Drew Adams
2020-05-11  1:02                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-10 19:35               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11  1:08                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-11  1:51                   ` Drew Adams
2020-05-11  3:26                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11  4:23                       ` Drew Adams
2020-05-11  4:40                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11  6:57                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-11 15:09                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 15:23                               ` Drew Adams
2020-05-12  0:59                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-12  3:21                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12  3:50                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-12 15:46                                     ` Drew Adams
2020-05-13  1:43                                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-13  2:05                                         ` Drew Adams
2020-05-13  2:27                                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-13  2:33                                             ` Drew Adams
2020-05-13  2:46                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-13  3:02                                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-16 10:23                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 12:39                                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-16 14:38                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 15:20                                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-12 15:46                                 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-11 15:13                             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-05-12  3:18                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11  3:23                   ` Stefan Monnier

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