From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Van L Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: etc/HELLO markup etc. Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:51:35 +1100 Message-ID: <85B1BB27-0C46-43E9-8BA2-03DCA2D1C4E1@scratch.space> References: <83muoo6b3e.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1546177128 15783 195.159.176.226 (30 Dec 2018 13:38:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:38:48 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 30 14:38:44 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdbIg-0003zM-JE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:38:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44780 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdbKn-0000mO-Ec for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 08:40:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57907) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUwt-0001Cz-R2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 01:51:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUwq-0004pm-Ks for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 01:51:47 -0500 Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:48755) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUwq-0004ng-Dm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 01:51:44 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 193.82.248.193 Original-Received: from epi.local (193-82-248-193.tpgi.com.au [193.82.248.193]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2CE660002 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 06:51:39 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83muoo6b3e.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.183.195 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 08:40:00 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:232046 Archived-At: >>> That's not the original purpose of that file. The purpose is to show = scripts,=20 >>> not languages, and to show how we display different scripts in the = same buffer. >>=20 >> The descriptive text accompanying (view-hello-file) says the = following, >> which needs to swap scripts for languages where that is. >>=20 >> : Display the HELLO file, which lists many languages and characters. >=20 > I'm not sure. This discussion has been very technical, and presumably Yes. It is well and truely deep in the weed of it. > the participants are well aware of what a script is, in this context. > By contrast, a random reader of the doc string doesn't necessarily > know what a script is. Saying "many languages and characters" is > vaguely similar, while using only terminology most people understand. A random reader may have in their consciousness the Rosetta Stone, = ESA=E2=80=99s Rosetta Mission which will be surpassed by NASA=E2=80=99s = New Horizon at Ultima Thule very very soon to bring in the New Year.=20 You have to think all the grade school students following the Rosetta = Mission were taught what is a language as distinct from a script and = characters at least among the EU nationals when the UK was in there = before Brexit.=20 How about the following? it is 74 columns wide; anyway. : Display HELLO file, a short sample of some languages, scripts, = characters.=