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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide	'CUA-mode)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:49:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <858xou72s3.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <447190AF.6020109@student.lu.se> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 22 May 2006 12:21:35 +0200")

Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> writes:

> Jan Djärv wrote:
>>
>>
>> Lennart Borgman skrev:
>>> Jan Djärv wrote:
>>>>> As far as I know F10 also always works on w32 for activating the
>>>>> menus. However the most usual way on w32 is to use the ALT
>>>>> key. Is that the usual way in Gnome/Gtk+ too?
>>>>
>>>> Most usual depends on what the user do, but keyboard shortcuts for
>>>> menus, using ALT + some key, are available if the menus are set up
>>>> like that by the program.  Emacs does not.
>>>
>>> What is missing in Emacs here? I know from what you told me before
>>> that Emacs does not setup accelerator keys for the menus (which at
>>> least on w32 are underlined characters). However on w32 this is not
>>> needed to activate the menus with ALT. It suffices to just press
>>> ALT. (Usually once but sometimes in some apps twice, which I
>>> believe is due to somewhat bad handling of accessibility in those
>>> programs.)
>>
>> Oh, you men just pressing ALT and no additional key?  That is not
>> used in Gnome/Gtk+.  Or any other toolkit or OS I know of either.
>> Must be w32-specific.
> Yes, I mean just pressing ALT and then using the arrow keys to
> navigate in the menus.
>
> Thanks, then I understand a little bit better why my cries for
> reserving the ALT key for the menus on w32 have fallen unheard
> here. However on w32 that is very important. Too bad those things are
> not cross-OS. Does anyone knows if there is something in the
> accessibility guidelines that says something about this?

There is some variable w32-pass-alt-to-system or similarly, I believe.
Not having a w32 system, I can't vouch for its actual name.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-22 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-20 13:15 Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode) Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-20 13:25 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 16:44   ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-20 18:32     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 19:18       ` Werner LEMBERG
2006-05-20 20:07         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21  7:49           ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-21  9:54             ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 17:43               ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-21 21:22                 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 22:51                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22  5:50                     ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22  8:53                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22  9:47                         ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22 10:21                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 10:49                             ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-05-22 11:26                             ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-22 12:50                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:02                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:32                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:34                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:44                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:51                                         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:58                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 14:57                                             ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 22:04                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-23  8:19                                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 12:06                             ` martin rudalics
2006-05-22 12:47                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:01                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:30                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:32                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:43                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:47                                         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:55                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 14:01                                             ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 14:21                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-21 11:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-22  2:38             ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-22  3:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-22  5:48               ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22 20:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23  6:27                   ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-23  8:22                     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-23 13:33                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-23 13:45                         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-23 14:12                         ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-23 14:32                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-23 22:35                             ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-24  2:18                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23 11:54                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-23 13:02                       ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24  2:18                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-24 11:16                       ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 12:27                         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-24 12:59                           ` David Kastrup
2006-05-24 14:23                             ` Jan D.
2006-05-24 14:32                               ` David Kastrup
2006-05-24 14:48                                 ` Jason Rumney
2006-05-24 14:53                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-24 15:00                                   ` David Kastrup
2006-05-25  0:36                               ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-29  7:30                                 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-29  7:49                                   ` David Kastrup
2006-05-29  8:16                                     ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-29  8:21                                       ` David Kastrup
2006-05-29  8:48                                         ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-29  9:06                                           ` David Kastrup
2006-06-01  7:48                                             ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-31 23:08                                   ` Menus (was: Semi-unhelpful error message etc.) Johan Bockgård
2006-05-31 23:14                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-06-01  5:41                                       ` Menus Jan Djärv
2006-06-01  6:46                                         ` Menus Romain Francoise
2006-06-01  7:31                                           ` Menus David Kastrup
2006-06-01  7:30                                         ` Menus David Kastrup
2006-06-02  3:13                                         ` Menus Richard Stallman
2006-06-02  3:12                                     ` Menus (was: Semi-unhelpful error message etc.) Richard Stallman
2006-05-25  0:36                         ` Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode) Richard Stallman
2006-05-25 10:52                           ` Jason Rumney
2006-05-25 10:56                             ` David Kastrup
2006-05-25 13:29                               ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-26  2:22                                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-26  2:22                             ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-25 13:28                           ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24  2:18                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-24 11:19                       ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 11:50                         ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-24 16:36                           ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 17:14                             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-23  9:58             ` public
2006-05-23 11:03               ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22  6:12     ` Miles Bader
2006-05-22  8:42       ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 20:37         ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23 11:48           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-24  2:18             ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-21  0:56   ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-20 21:38 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-20 22:57   ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-20 23:18     ` Kim F. Storm

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