From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:49:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <858xou72s3.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <447190AF.6020109@student.lu.se> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 22 May 2006 12:21:35 +0200")
Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> writes:
> Jan Djärv wrote:
>>
>>
>> Lennart Borgman skrev:
>>> Jan Djärv wrote:
>>>>> As far as I know F10 also always works on w32 for activating the
>>>>> menus. However the most usual way on w32 is to use the ALT
>>>>> key. Is that the usual way in Gnome/Gtk+ too?
>>>>
>>>> Most usual depends on what the user do, but keyboard shortcuts for
>>>> menus, using ALT + some key, are available if the menus are set up
>>>> like that by the program. Emacs does not.
>>>
>>> What is missing in Emacs here? I know from what you told me before
>>> that Emacs does not setup accelerator keys for the menus (which at
>>> least on w32 are underlined characters). However on w32 this is not
>>> needed to activate the menus with ALT. It suffices to just press
>>> ALT. (Usually once but sometimes in some apps twice, which I
>>> believe is due to somewhat bad handling of accessibility in those
>>> programs.)
>>
>> Oh, you men just pressing ALT and no additional key? That is not
>> used in Gnome/Gtk+. Or any other toolkit or OS I know of either.
>> Must be w32-specific.
> Yes, I mean just pressing ALT and then using the arrow keys to
> navigate in the menus.
>
> Thanks, then I understand a little bit better why my cries for
> reserving the ALT key for the menus on w32 have fallen unheard
> here. However on w32 that is very important. Too bad those things are
> not cross-OS. Does anyone knows if there is something in the
> accessibility guidelines that says something about this?
There is some variable w32-pass-alt-to-system or similarly, I believe.
Not having a w32 system, I can't vouch for its actual name.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-20 13:15 Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode) Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-20 13:25 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 16:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-20 18:32 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 19:18 ` Werner LEMBERG
2006-05-20 20:07 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 7:49 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-21 9:54 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 17:43 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-21 21:22 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 22:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 5:50 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22 8:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 9:47 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22 10:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 10:49 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-05-22 11:26 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-22 12:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:02 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:32 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:34 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:44 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:51 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:58 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 14:57 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 22:04 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-23 8:19 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 12:06 ` martin rudalics
2006-05-22 12:47 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:01 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:32 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:43 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 13:47 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 13:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 14:01 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 14:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-21 11:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-22 2:38 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-22 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-22 5:48 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22 20:37 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23 6:27 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-23 8:22 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-23 13:33 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-23 13:45 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-23 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-23 14:32 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-23 22:35 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-24 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23 11:54 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-23 13:02 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-24 11:16 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 12:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-24 12:59 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-24 14:23 ` Jan D.
2006-05-24 14:32 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-24 14:48 ` Jason Rumney
2006-05-24 14:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-24 15:00 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-25 0:36 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-29 7:30 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-29 7:49 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-29 8:16 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-29 8:21 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-29 8:48 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-29 9:06 ` David Kastrup
2006-06-01 7:48 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-31 23:08 ` Menus (was: Semi-unhelpful error message etc.) Johan Bockgård
2006-05-31 23:14 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-06-01 5:41 ` Menus Jan Djärv
2006-06-01 6:46 ` Menus Romain Francoise
2006-06-01 7:31 ` Menus David Kastrup
2006-06-01 7:30 ` Menus David Kastrup
2006-06-02 3:13 ` Menus Richard Stallman
2006-06-02 3:12 ` Menus (was: Semi-unhelpful error message etc.) Richard Stallman
2006-05-25 0:36 ` Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode) Richard Stallman
2006-05-25 10:52 ` Jason Rumney
2006-05-25 10:56 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-25 13:29 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-26 2:22 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-26 2:22 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-25 13:28 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-24 11:19 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 11:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-24 16:36 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-24 17:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-23 9:58 ` public
2006-05-23 11:03 ` Jan Djärv
2006-05-22 6:12 ` Miles Bader
2006-05-22 8:42 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-22 20:37 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23 11:48 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-24 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-21 0:56 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-20 21:38 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-05-20 22:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-20 23:18 ` Kim F. Storm
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