From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: vc-dired Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:02:18 +0200 Message-ID: <858x913qid.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <200707211727.l6LHRAC5017861@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200707231818.l6NIIZe3011091@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <20070728.160606.131927928.jet@gyve.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185609775 16412 80.91.229.12 (28 Jul 2007 08:02:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Masatake YAMATO Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 28 10:02:49 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IEhGB-0000Tq-FW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:02:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IEhGA-0004lt-Oa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:02:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IEhG5-0004ii-64 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:02:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IEhG1-0004ca-2E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IEhG0-0004cW-Qf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:02:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-09.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.49]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IEhG0-0001JG-6y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:02:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-07-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.19]) by mail-in-09.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71F333A674; Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:02:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.44]) by mail-in-07-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846222C707F; Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:02:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-039-045.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.39.45]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2911F1BF385; Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:02:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 479911CFF95E; Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:02:18 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20070728.160606.131927928.jet@gyve.org> (Masatake YAMATO's message of "Sat\, 28 Jul 2007 16\:06\:06 +0900 \(JST\)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/3794/Sat Jul 28 03:17:28 2007 on mail-in-04.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75739 Archived-At: Masatake YAMATO writes: >> I would go even farther, IMVHO the "dired" part of the interface for >> vc-dired is not that useful: the 4 top-level menu entries are not very >> useful in the VC context, there's no top level menu for VC operations >> and the files not under VC are not shown by default (it would be good >> to see them so they can be vc-registered if desired). >> It seems to me that a cvs-status like UI would be preferable to >> vc-dired. > > Here is the first very small patch. > Do you think menu item "Version Control" is too long? > "VC" is better? "VC" is not an established acronym (see the long list at ). "VCS" and "SCM" at least get mentioned. The latter is probably the most widely used one, though it can be confused with Scheme or a particular interpreter of it. Short of an acronym, "Versioning" or "Version" might be possible. For registered files, using the version control system name itself might be the way to go. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum