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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org,
	"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
	Edward O'Connor <hober0@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:31:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <858x1k4xkw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47B71777.6030404@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:03:51 +0000")

Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> writes:

> This is nothing to do with psgml (which is not part of Emacs), or
> nxml. AFAIK psgml does nothing about encoding, as sgml files are not
> necessarily in any particular encoding. Nxml had some code which as
> far as I understand is similar to what I was proposing as a solution
> here. I removed that code shortly after it was merged into Emacs since
> Emacs already had code which seemed to do the same thing for XML
> files, regardless of mode. It is only now that I found out that the
> code in Emacs is overly simplistic, forcing UTF-8 even against users'
> wishes.

Unless the user explicitly requests some encoding, the default should be
(irrespective of language environment) utf-8.  If the user explicitly
requests some encoding, that's the decoding for saving.  In either case,
if the resulting encoding does not agree with a prospective XML coding
cookie (the absence of which indicates utf-8), Emacs should offer to add
or change the coding cookie.

Something like that.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum




  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-16 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-15  9:06 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8) Sébastien Vauban
2008-02-15 22:32 ` Edward O'Connor
2008-02-15 22:54   ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-15 23:24     ` Miles Bader
2008-02-15 23:34       ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-15 23:42         ` Miles Bader
2008-02-16  3:42           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  2:49       ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-18  3:01         ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-16  4:03   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-16  7:17     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-16  9:58       ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-16 11:23         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-16 12:07           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-17  3:52             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-17 14:31               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-17 22:24                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-17 22:27                   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  0:07                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18  3:16                       ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  6:26                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18  6:40                           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-19  7:17                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-19  7:19                               ` Miles Bader
2008-02-19 21:03                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-19 22:47                                   ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-19 22:58                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-20  0:43                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-19 15:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-19 22:02                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18 14:59                           ` Projects and multi-file documents (was: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8)) Stefan Monnier
2008-02-18 18:51                             ` Projects and multi-file documents Ralf Angeli
2008-02-18 16:35                   ` 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8) Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-16 17:03           ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-16 17:31             ` David Kastrup [this message]
2008-02-17  3:53             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18  3:22               ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  6:01                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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