From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: the Emacs wiki Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 04:41:49 -0600 Message-ID: <8561dpjc0i.fsf_-_@stephe-leake.org> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203192721.GE12748@thyrsus.com> <547F6774.50700@cs.ucla.edu> <838uio5vjw.fsf@gnu.org> <20141203211447.GB15111@thyrsus.com> <871toge5zw.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <83388v6hsq.fsf@gnu.org> <87egsftgd5.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <83egsf3yci.fsf@gnu.org> <20141204230131.5eea855f@forcix> <837fy64lq6.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417862543 1417 80.91.229.3 (6 Dec 2014 10:42:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:42:23 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 06 11:42:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxCoa-0000e2-V7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 11:42:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54004 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxCoa-00023g-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:42:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42276) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxCoI-00023O-HV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:42:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxCoC-0007Th-8o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:41:58 -0500 Original-Received: from dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com ([107.14.73.225]:12660 helo=dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxCoC-0007TN-3J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:41:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [70.94.38.149] ([70.94.38.149:52548] helo=TAKVER) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 5E/CE-16151-F6DD2845; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 10:41:51 +0000 In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?Q?=22Aur=C3=A9lien?= Aptel"'s message of "Fri, 5 Dec 2014 08:55:06 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.94 (windows-nt) X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.130:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=bePlUY/B c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=AppmJ/7ZOOFWL/q6u6u93g==:117 a=AppmJ/7ZOOFWL/q6u6u93g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=fNEgcOh0sVsA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=xY1_shhyAAAA:8 a=YqGzDi3yB0MleCkA5QIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=lzJBf66_e0MA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 107.14.73.225 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179142 Archived-At: Aur=C3=A9lien Aptel writes: > Concerning the new developer resources and architectural complexity: > there's the HackerGuide buried on the wiki which could be improved and get > more exposition. It starts with "Bazaar". Most of the rest is better done in (info "(elisp)Top"). So I'd much rather _delete_ that page, and add a reference to CONTRIBUTE to http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GitForEmacsDevs. CONTRIBUTE in turn references the elisp manual. What is the intended process for maintaining the wiki? Suppose I want to clean up all references to Bazaar, and make sure the wiki presents a clear and consistent picture of the Emacs development process? I can easily do that in ./CONTRIBUTE, because it will be reviewed by the other Emacs developers. Finding things in the wiki is a nightmare. Maintaining them is worse. I don't mind maintaining one or two wiki pages, as long as they are referen= ced from CONTRIBUTE as important web pages. That's my concession to the "we must use the web" bandwagon. Anything more than that is unmaintainable. It would make more sense if there was a higher-level wiki page that was well maintained, that talked more about Emacs in general, not just how to use git. --=20 -- Stephe