From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: find-library-name fails if file (with no extension) exists. Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:19:28 +0100 Message-ID: <854pssz8u7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <8764d8u085.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <85lkm4zbfa.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1164151207 19421 80.91.229.2 (21 Nov 2006 23:20:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 22 00:20:04 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmeuI-00045S-LW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:20:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmeuI-0000Ai-3M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:20:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmeu3-00006M-Ui for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:19:48 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmeu3-00004y-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:19:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmeu3-0008WT-3q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:19:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmeu3-0005sB-3t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:19:47 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmeu2-00045s-GD; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:19:46 -0500 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 1F26F1C1E259; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:19:29 +0100 (CET) Original-To: "Juanma Barranquero" In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Tue\, 21 Nov 2006 23\:57\:20 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:62619 Archived-At: "Juanma Barranquero" writes: > On 11/21/06, David Kastrup wrote: > >> But nevertheless nobody would think of proposing that voluntas.tex and >> volvntas.tex should map to the same file. > > Not today. Every single roman (from the classical period) able to read > and use a computer would have proposed just that! > >> Having different file names map to the same file is a recipe for >> trouble. > > Circular reasoning. MyBook.txt and mybook.txt are not different file > names in case-insensitive systems. Yes, they are. As can easily be verified by listing the directory after creating either file. They certainly _are_ different file names, but they can't refer to different files. > Certainly, when I'm looking for that old picture of my dogs, I want > to find "Mila&Nero.png" when I search for "mila&nero". That does not make the names the same, merely changes your search strategy. > I don't distinguish between capitalized or non-capitalized words, > except in very specific (written) contexts. I don't know why my > computer should insist I do. It doesn't. It just insists that you are consistent. If you want to write lowercase, do so. If you want to capitalize, do so. > And plenty of successful operating systems have been > case-insensitive, so it is clearly not a bad idea, not unworkable, It is a constant source for trouble in scripts of all sorts. I guess about 20% of Windows installation problem reports with AUCTeX originate from capitalization mixups. > nor particularly dangerous, difficult to implement, or hard on the > user. It's just another UI decision. One I like a lot. It is a constant trouble for programmers, and that leads to quite obtuse user problems. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum