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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: find-library-name fails if file (with no extension) exists.
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:19:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <854pssz8u7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7ccd24b0611211457s1d2ba6e2h72723ecf8a4d6baa@mail.gmail.com> (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Tue\, 21 Nov 2006 23\:57\:20 +0100")

"Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:

> On 11/21/06, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> But nevertheless nobody would think of proposing that voluntas.tex and
>> volvntas.tex should map to the same file.
>
> Not today. Every single roman (from the classical period) able to read
> and use a computer would have proposed just that!
>
>> Having different file names map to the same file is a recipe for
>> trouble.
>
> Circular reasoning. MyBook.txt and mybook.txt are not different file
> names in case-insensitive systems.

Yes, they are.  As can easily be verified by listing the directory
after creating either file.

They certainly _are_ different file names, but they can't refer to
different files.

> Certainly, when I'm looking for that old picture of my dogs, I want
> to find "Mila&Nero.png" when I search for "mila&nero".

That does not make the names the same, merely changes your search
strategy.

> I don't distinguish between capitalized or non-capitalized words,
> except in very specific (written) contexts. I don't know why my
> computer should insist I do.

It doesn't.  It just insists that you are consistent.  If you want to
write lowercase, do so.  If you want to capitalize, do so.

> And plenty of successful operating systems have been
> case-insensitive, so it is clearly not a bad idea, not unworkable,

It is a constant source for trouble in scripts of all sorts.  I guess
about 20% of Windows installation problem reports with AUCTeX
originate from capitalization mixups.

> nor particularly dangerous, difficult to implement, or hard on the
> user. It's just another UI decision. One I like a lot.

It is a constant trouble for programmers, and that leads to quite
obtuse user problems.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-21 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-21 16:22 find-library-name fails if file (with no extension) exists Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 18:24 ` Romain Francoise
2006-11-21 19:09   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 20:07     ` Romain Francoise
2006-11-21 21:58       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22  7:28         ` Romain Francoise
2006-11-22 12:14           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22 12:35             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22 13:54             ` Romain Francoise
     [not found]               ` <f7ccd24b0611220644m1d8944dq5943175c347cde3e@mail.gmail.com>
2006-11-22 19:34                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22 19:47                   ` Romain Francoise
2006-11-22 20:33                     ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-22 21:02                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 20:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-21 20:47     ` Andreas Schwab
2006-11-21 21:04       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-21 21:47       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 21:48         ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 22:23         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-21 22:57           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 23:19             ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-11-21 23:25               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-21 23:33                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-21 23:36                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22  0:16                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-22  0:47                     ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22  0:59                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-22  1:04                         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22  1:27                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-22  1:56                             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22  4:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22  9:37                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22 10:05                             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 18:44                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22  4:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 10:03                         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 12:07                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-22 12:46                             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 21:56                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 22:06                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 22:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-23 19:47                                     ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-22 18:40                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 19:13                             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 22:04                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22  4:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-21 23:34               ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 23:52                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22  0:01                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22  0:34                     ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22  0:38                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22  9:53                       ` Andreas Schwab
2006-11-22  4:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22  9:53                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 18:38                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 19:27                     ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 22:09                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 22:18                         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 13:16             ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-22 14:48               ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-24 22:49                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-22  4:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22  9:35             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 18:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 19:25                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-27 19:32               ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-11-27 19:06             ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-11-28 19:19               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-21 20:06   ` Eli Zaretskii

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