From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: smartquotes.el -- Insertion of unicode quotes in text documents Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:56 +0200 Message-ID: <854pikajwb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <1b151690708252221j7177cea1xe8916c52a1110190@mail.gmail.com> <1b151690708262146r56a80a4i2fb5bf3e07177bb8@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188241371 883 80.91.229.12 (27 Aug 2007 19:02:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Martin Blais , handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 27 21:02:32 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IPjka-0006LH-Vn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:55:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IPjkZ-00050M-Ge for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:55:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IPjjI-0003yw-4U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:54:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IPjjD-0003vb-Bw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:54:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IPjjD-0003vI-5P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:54:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-11.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.51]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IPjix-0001lG-VW; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:54:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.17]) by mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C3B1306B; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-09.arcor-online.net (mail-in-09.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.49]) by mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E192DABC0; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-058-178.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.58.178]) by mail-in-09.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A3F1BB222; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 5A7DE1C3C7A6; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:56 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 27 Aug 2007 14\:17\:40 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/4076/Mon Aug 27 16:15:54 2007 on mail-in-09.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77302 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I fail to see how Quail can be used to do what smartquotes.el does. > > It ought to be able to translate sequences of periods and hyphens > into other text. And it could have another similar mechanism for > entering the various kinds of quotations. > > I am not saying I am sure this is better than your approach. But it > has the advantage of being more coherent with the rest of Emacs, > i.e., not being another ad hoc feature. We should not adopt the ad > hoc approach without giving this one a try too. I think this might need a way to have several Quail methods active at once. I have considered using Quail for some things in AUCTeX, but not being able to use other input methods at the same time is a showstopper. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum