From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shift selection using interactive spec Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:02:14 +0100 Message-ID: <854pasvedl.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87k5k69p92.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87od9gzqv9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87bq5gytbi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <8763vndi0r.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87hcf6ratt.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <878x0if9ul.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87od9e9gnx.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87skyo5bvk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87skynrin5.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iqzju0lq.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <851w5xx5ya.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ve3993dt.fsf@jurta.org> <47EA37C7.7080502@gmail.com> <47EADCC4.2000207@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206601364 18215 80.91.229.12 (27 Mar 2008 07:02:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, jared@hpalace.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 27 08:03:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jem8g-0001Bn-UL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:03:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jem85-0007A6-Ho for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:02:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jem81-00079r-Ph for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:02:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jem81-00079f-7g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:02:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jem81-00079c-4g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:02:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jem7w-0004DT-ND; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:02:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.48]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jem7v-0002R8-R1; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:02:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-12-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.29]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C95E27AEA1; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:02:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by mail-in-12-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4E5279437; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:02:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-014-159.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.14.159]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509B517F42; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:02:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 880501C4D433; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:02:14 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <47EADCC4.2000207@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:31:16 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6415/Thu Mar 27 01:30:08 2008 on mail-in-06.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93618 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > Richard Stallman wrote: >> I think that `interactive' codes are much better than symbol properties >> for defining the meaning of a command. > > Yes, but the problem here is rather that you may need to redefine > which commands should deactivate the mark. Doing that with a symbol > property makes it much more flexible. Read "flexible" as "conveniently hot-patchable around things not designed for it". We have a policy not to use advice (another hotpatch facility) for components distributed as part of Emacs because we want all information pertaining to a particular function accessible and readable from a single location in a clear manner. I don't see this any different. If there is a need for a user to hot-patch around functions not designed for it, advice is still available. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum