From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:21:30 +0100 Message-ID: <853b927nyd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <45478595.5090306@swipnet.se> <87wt6e7o7s.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162423383 11546 80.91.229.2 (1 Nov 2006 23:23:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kenichi Handa , Masatake YAMATO , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Katsumi Yamaoka , Stefan Monnier , "Jan D." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 02 00:23:00 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPQ6-0004ZR-0v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:22:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPQ5-0005cz-FS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:22:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPPo-0005cL-Gb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:22:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPPn-0005bs-R3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:22:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPPn-0005bg-BX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:22:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPPn-00021g-As for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:22:35 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GfPPm-0006Ig-5H; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:22:34 -0500 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id C78431C460D5; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:21:30 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Chong Yidong In-Reply-To: <87wt6e7o7s.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Wed\, 01 Nov 2006 18\:15\:51 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:61582 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >> (and if the reason has to do with input-focus, I'll need more info >> to understand what's the relationship with raise-frame). > > If you really want to know the answer, the logical thing is to ask > at wm-spec-list@gnome.org (to post to that list you need to > subscribe at wm-spec-list-request@gnome.org, or subscribe to the > no-traffic list post-only@gnome.org). If you want to summarize the > situation and ask the folks there, that'd be great. > > (Though my money is on "misfeature needed for some odd reason"; I > think we should just apply the patch if it demonstrably works, > especially since it shouldn't have any harmful effects.) Yup. Emacs central is just not the place where we want window manager bugs tested and reported. It's better for our reputation and nerves if we just pass the buck. It is a lesson I keep getting as a project manager. You don't get points for insisting that another program should follow its specs when nobody else does. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum