From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 09:08:06 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <853b2bvjc9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <59osrdF2m97hgU1@mid.individual.net> <46383B57.6050508@gmail.com> <4638EE03.8000602@gmail.com> <85bqgzvm20.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178350421 22649 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2007 07:33:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 07:33:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 05 09:33:40 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HkElt-0003y1-0E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 09:33:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkEsb-0007dt-HM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 03:40:33 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newshunter!cosy.sbg.ac.at!newsfeed.utanet.at!newsfeed01.chello.at!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.98 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Fw7eXs3iqTJwxITfHuh+voTO+Lc= Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 05 May 2007 09:08:00 CEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 5429934a.newsspool2.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=NjT<[DZZJY1T2Rfi6e_M5ji; 1:1_LiI6ENVa=3>5MOK`; S:bhJ0 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:148119 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43718 Archived-At: "Juanma Barranquero" writes: > On 5/5/07, David Kastrup wrote: > >> No, he forbids changes that would give Windows an advantage beneath >> Emacs over GNU/Linux or other free systems. >> >> "I would not be using Windows if it were not for Emacs" is no outcome >> he is interested in. I can follow him on that. > > He didn't want a patch to make Emacs act as a COM server. It's hard > to think that many people would say "I would not be using Windows if > it were not for Emacs being a COM server". "I would not be using Windows if it wasn't the only platform where I could seamlessly integrate Emacs into my desktop" is quite likely. After all, that's the whole point of making it a COM server. So instead of making it a Windows-only application server, I find it legitimate to demand a solution that won't work Windows-only and might very well _block_ a clean implementation of, say, CORBA because of Windows-only design decisions. >> I also find it disconcerting if programmers enjoying the benefits >> of free software don't bother helping anybody else reaping the >> benefits of benefitting from their adaptations. It always has been >> one goal of free software to be available to as many people as >> possible, and the "I cater for myself, let everybody else cater for >> themselves" stance is not particularly helpful when 90% of >> potential users are actually using non-free systems. > > Sorry, you lost me here. I don't see how this applies to the > discussion. Could you please elaborate? If 90% of Emacs functionality worked only on Windows, it would be pretty useless for promoting free software. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum