exporting typefaces

exporting typefaces

[Austin Frank]

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Hello all--

I'm interested in being able to export stacked typefaces.  This org file:

    * headline
      *bold* /italic/ _underlined_
      */bold italic/* *_bold underlined_* /_italic underlined_/


produces this xhtml:


    <h1 class="title">test</h1>

    <h2>headline</h2>

    <p><b>bold</b> <i>italic</i> <u>underlined</u>
    </p><ul>
    <li>
    /bold italic/* *<sub>bold</sub> underlined<sub>*</sub>
/<sub>italic</sub> underlined_/

    </li>
    </ul>


I would like to see something like


    <h1 class="title">test</h1>

    <h2>headline</h2>

    <p><b>bold</b> <i>italic</i> <u>underlined</u>
    </p><ul>
    <li>
    <b><i>bold italic</i></b> <b><u>bold underlined</u></b> <i><u>italic
underlined</u></i>

    </li>
    </ul>


One can even imagine stacking all of the typeface indicators, like
*/_really fancy text_/*.  I can understand if there's some restriction
on the order that the indicators should be stacked in (e.g., _/.../_
instead of /_..._/), but I still hope that there is some syntax for
applying multiple typeface markups to the same string.

Thanks,
/au
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Re: exporting typefaces

[Carsten Dominik]

I have never even once in my lifetime applied two different styles to a 
piece of text.  What is the application of this?

- Carsten

On Jun 6, 2006, at 16:26, Austin Frank wrote:

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> Hello all--
>
> I'm interested in being able to export stacked typefaces.  This org 
> file:
>
>     * headline
>       *bold* /italic/ _underlined_
>       */bold italic/* *_bold underlined_* /_italic underlined_/
>
>
> produces this xhtml:
>
>
>     <h1 class="title">test</h1>
>
>     <h2>headline</h2>
>
>     <p><b>bold</b> <i>italic</i> <u>underlined</u>
>     </p><ul>
>     <li>
>     /bold italic/* *<sub>bold</sub> underlined<sub>*</sub>
> /<sub>italic</sub> underlined_/
>
>     </li>
>     </ul>
>
>
> I would like to see something like
>
>
>     <h1 class="title">test</h1>
>
>     <h2>headline</h2>
>
>     <p><b>bold</b> <i>italic</i> <u>underlined</u>
>     </p><ul>
>     <li>
>     <b><i>bold italic</i></b> <b><u>bold underlined</u></b> 
> <i><u>italic
> underlined</u></i>
>
>     </li>
>     </ul>
>
>
> One can even imagine stacking all of the typeface indicators, like
> */_really fancy text_/*.  I can understand if there's some restriction
> on the order that the indicators should be stacked in (e.g., _/.../_
> instead of /_..._/), but I still hope that there is some syntax for
> applying multiple typeface markups to the same string.
>
> Thanks,
> /au
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Carsten Dominik
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Re: exporting typefaces

[Austin Frank]

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Carsten Dominik wrote:

> I have never even once in my lifetime applied two different styles to
> a piece of text.  What is the application of this?

Looking through a few O'Reilly books on my shelf, I see that different
books use constant-width bold (<b><pre>text</pre></b>) and
constant-width italics (<i><pre>text</pre></i>) to indicate where a user
should enter input in example code.

I've been writing a tutorial for use in my lab, and have wanted the
ability to typographically distinguish between optional and required
parts of our in-house scripting language.  I'd like to say

    All *bold* terms are properties of a certain part.  All
    /*italic bold*/ terms are required properties of that part.

I don't know if this request is common enough to warrant inclusion, or
how much of a pain it would be to add to the parser, but that's the
first example off the top of my head of where I'd use this kind of
formatting.

Thanks,
/au

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Re: exporting typefaces

[Carsten Dominik]

On Jun 6, 2006, at 16:55, Austin Frank wrote:
>
> Looking through a few O'Reilly books on my shelf, I see that different
> books use constant-width bold (<b><pre>text</pre></b>) and
> constant-width italics (<i><pre>text</pre></i>) to indicate where a 
> user
> should enter input in example code.

Yes, that is true, O'Reilly books use some excessive styling - I guess 
it makes sense in these cases.

Generalizing the emphasis stuff is tricky, and I am worried that the 
regular expressions will match unintentionally.

However, I have now made this configurable, a test version is at

http://www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/org/org-testemphasize.zip

In this version you can configure your own text styling through the 
option `org-emphasis-alist'.  Before I release this, some tweaking of 
the other new option `org-emphasis-regexp-components' might be 
necessary.  In that option you can also define the number of newlines 
you wish to allow in a single emphasized expression (default is one for 
now, don't increase this too much because of a potentially significant 
performance penalty).  Also you can ask for stacked styling in that 
variable.

For now, stacked styling is turned off by default.

- Carsten