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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Darwin support for lisp/battery.el.
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:46:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <851x6fa4pa.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d5pz8qoq.fsf@xs4all.nl> (Lute Kamstra's message of "Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:34:13 +0200")

Lute Kamstra <Lute.Kamstra.lists@xs4all.nl> writes:

> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> The kernel of MacOS is Darwin.  The kernel of GNU/Linux is Linux.
>>
>>> The current comment says "Linux" because it refers specifically to
>>> the kernel and its version numbers.  (There are no generally
>>> meaningful version numbers for the GNU/Linux system as a whole.)
>>
>> Well, I don't get it.  What do you want to call the MacOS kernel if
>> not Darwin?
>
> As I understand it, Darwin is a subset of OS X that includes the
> Mach kernel and more.

Mach is only the Microkernel.

<URL:http://developer.apple.com/darwin/>

Looks like the definition of Darwin _does_ include command line
utilities.

So the proper verbage in this context would be "Linux" and "Darwin
kernel".  In neither case does GNU come into play.  If one wants to
drive home some point, one can say "Linux kernel" and "Darwin
kernel".  But GNU/Linux is simply wrong in this context.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-03 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-02 12:21 Darwin support for lisp/battery.el Lute Kamstra
2005-07-02 13:49 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-02 14:33   ` Lute Kamstra
2005-07-02 15:16     ` David Kastrup
2005-07-03 20:42 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-03 21:28   ` David Kastrup
2005-07-03 22:34     ` Lute Kamstra
2005-07-03 22:46       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-07-04  2:41         ` Ken Raeburn
2005-07-04  7:39           ` Lute Kamstra
2005-07-04  8:28             ` Arne Jørgensen
2005-07-04  9:44               ` Lute Kamstra
     [not found]                 ` <87pstysxke.fsf@seamus.arnested.dk>
2005-07-04 10:43                   ` Lute Kamstra
2005-07-04  9:31             ` Ken Raeburn
2005-07-04  9:40               ` Ken Raeburn
2005-07-06 11:42               ` Lute Kamstra
2005-07-06 13:05                 ` Sean O'Rourke
2005-07-09 10:13                   ` Lute Kamstra
2005-07-04 14:51     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-04 15:30       ` David Kastrup
2005-07-05 16:12         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-05 20:27           ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-07-03 22:32   ` Lute Kamstra

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