From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs-dynamic-module in Emacs Git?
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 16:58:21 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <851tojm0z6.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83zjb771px.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 01 Dec 2014 18:51:22 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> > . It seems to me that the modules call functions implemented by
>> > Emacs, like make_number and Fmember, on the assumption that
>> > calling any Emacs function will "just work". This is false for
>>
>> I had to add a linker flag to expose every symbol of Emacs. See the
>> relevant commit:
>>
>> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/configure.ac?h=dynamic-modules&id=5c710fba15e0a3a2ae5d831e5cdb555332238752
>
> I don't think this is correct: we don't really want to export all the
> symbols.
Why not?
If we were writing this code to be included in Emacs core, we'd have
access to all of the symbols.
_if_ the module author wants to be somewhat isolated from Emacs changes,
and/or support more than one Emacs version, then they will want to stick
to some stable subset. But I don't think we can define that subset ahead
of time, and it will certainly be a different subset for each module.
We don't have a single .el file that defines the "Emacs core elisp API
for packages"; I don't think we can define a .h file for modules either.
> All this is pretty standard practice on Windows and works well, the
> only issue for us is to decide which functions to export (unless we
> really want to export all of them, in which case the --export-dynamic
> linker switch is all that's needed).
Let's make it simple; export all of them.
However, previous posts have identified some C functions that should
_not_ be called by modules, so perhaps we need an "module_anti_api.h"
that #defines those to throw a compilation error.
--
-- Stephe
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