From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Jenkner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:55:37 +0200 Message-ID: <851tcuhnh2.fsf@iznogoud.viz> References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <87io6dl0h0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhb82qxc.fsf@gmail.com> <87oag4jk74.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k2qrki45.fsf@wanadoo.es> <8737xf9je9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pp0fm0j3.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3kv54bg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445007369 4090 80.91.229.3 (16 Oct 2015 14:56:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 16 16:55:57 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn6QF-0006Ix-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:55:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54152 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn6QE-0005nB-UI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:55:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn6Q9-0005mn-HA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:55:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn6Q4-000369-4J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:55:47 -0400 Original-Received: from b2bfep16.mx.upcmail.net ([62.179.121.61]:33344) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn6Q3-000353-I0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:55:43 -0400 Original-Received: from edge11.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.81]) by b2bfep16.mx.upcmail.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.18 201-2260-151-151-20140610) with ESMTP id <20151016145539.STQY9629.b2bfep16-int.chello.at@edge11.upcmail.net> for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:55:39 +0200 Original-Received: from iznogoud.viz ([91.119.93.169]) by edge11.upcmail.net with edge id Vqve1r02a3fEyb70BqvfnY; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:55:39 +0200 X-SourceIP: 91.119.93.169 Original-Received: from wolfgang by iznogoud.viz with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn6Py-0007on-Kk; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:55:38 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=), emacs-devel@gnu.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (berkeley-unix) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 62.179.121.61 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191760 Archived-At: On Fri, Oct 16 2015, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Yes, but libunistring is not a good basis for Emacs's i18n features, > because it relies on the underlying C library for most of its > features. That doesn't allow writing programs that behave exactly the > same on any platform, something that Emacs must support. IIUC, the behaviour of the recently added `string-collate-lessp' and `string-collate-equalp' already depends on libc (and the locale data). (Lest this be interpreted as criticism: IMHO, depending on POSIX facilities is a good thing, even for emacs.)