From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <8504ddd4-5e3b-4ed5-bf77-aa9cce81b59a@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> References: <877iav5s49.fsf@163.com> <86hc9yc5sj.fsf@timbral.net> <877iat7udd.fsf@163.com> <87fxphcsxi.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218120265 27705 80.91.229.12 (7 Aug 2008 14:44:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:44:25 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 07 16:45:16 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KR6jl-00072f-Er for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37596 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KR6ip-000262-Uk for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:44:11 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!1g2000pre.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 51 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.97.120 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1218119654 28124 127.0.0.1 (7 Aug 2008 14:34:14 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 1g2000pre.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.97.120; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:160894 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56238 Archived-At: Tim X wrote: =C2=ABIn general, HTML in mail messages is a bad thing.=C2=BB HTML in email is a very good thing. =46rom the technology point of view, it is far more powerful. For example, it can contain links, bold text, coloring, embedded images, etc. The bulkier than plain text in size, of course, but in today's youtube days, this doesn't matter. Also not, if my 10 years old email transmission protocol knowledge is not outdated, then email is still sent by first converting to a ascii encoding. This is invented by the unix folks, which is extremely inefficient. =46rom the social point of view, HTMl is also far more useful, and people wants the ability to have colored text, embed images, etc. I don't have stats on this, but it is my guess that 80%, or perhaps even 90% of email traffics today, are in html. Human animals, collectively, want it. Arguably, another format, such as rich text that is espoused by Apple computer's email progrm ( ~2002 to ~2006 and no support for html mail), is a better tech than HTML for rich text in email. But for whatever social reasons it didn't catch on. Html is the de facto standard today for rich text in email. I wrote a essay back in 2002 detailing my thoughts on this: Plain-Text Email Fetish http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/plain_text.html Also, as i mentioned before, tools used by tech geekers usually have 5 or more so years lagging in catching up with any tech that are being adapted in the commercial world. For example, HTML email has basically became the standard in Microsoft since maybe 2002?, and html is widely supported or in fact default format for commercial web based service provider since many years ago too. Emacs's rmail, should adopt the ability to send HTML mail. It is my guess, that it will adopt it eventually. The question is just how many more years later? convenient Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_e-mail Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84